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Re: Tryin' 27 Mar 2016 18:09 #282661

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If I remember correctly the gemora appears twice and in one of the places Rashi says that. 
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Re: Tryin' 27 Mar 2016 19:34 #282668

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I clearly remember cordnoy once saying something to the effect of that he never reads a post thats more then two lines.  Being that im trying to emulate the great cordnoy.... there aint no way that i can focus on that post unless its on one those sights that are now blocked from my phone.

Nice to see all those intelligent sounding responses though. 
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Re: Tryin' 27 Mar 2016 20:08 #282673

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Cordnoy,
How long a sabbatical and how come?

Re: Tryin' 27 Mar 2016 20:18 #282674

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Love the post, thanks.  I hope to study it further in your absence. And of course, I agree with the conclusion.

One question - people often share about their experiences to "get it off my chest". How would you say that differs from "cleansing"?

Re: Tryin' 27 Mar 2016 20:28 #282676

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Gevura Shebyesod wrote on 27 Mar 2016 18:09:
If I remember correctly the gemora appears twice and in one of the places Rashi says that. 

Rashi Sotah 7B - "One who reveals (specifies) his sins.  To the public, for he appears as if he is not ashamed and disgraced by it."

Don't know how to write hebrew, but "lerabim, nireh she'eino (B"CH adds bosh v-) nichlam bedavar" 

Re: Tryin' 27 Mar 2016 20:31 #282677

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Harav cordnoy wrote on 27 Mar 2016 16:50:

Just remember one thing from all of this-that step five is fine in Halacha.




 

stillgoing wrote:
I clearly remember cordnoy once saying something to the effect of that he never reads a post thats more then two lines.  Being that i'm trying to emulate the great cordnoy.... there aint no way that i can focus on that post unless its on one those sights that are now blocked from my phone.



Nice to see all those intelligent sounding responses though. 



 

 Markz Wrote:(what happened to the post?) 

Read his last line, the rest is pirush 




Got it! Thanks. I'm still on 4, so I wouldn't know, but I've often wondered that even if it was not in perfect sync with halacha, is it really worse then viewing p--n etc...
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Re: Tryin' 27 Mar 2016 20:46 #282679

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Workingguy wrote on 27 Mar 2016 20:08:
Cordnoy,
How long a sabbatical and how come?

Do not know.
Several reasons.
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Re: Tryin' 27 Mar 2016 20:47 #282680

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thanks613 wrote on 27 Mar 2016 20:18:
Love the post, thanks.  I hope to study it further in your absence. And of course, I agree with the conclusion.

One question - people often share about their experiences to "get it off my chest". How would you say that differs from "cleansing"?

What conclusion?
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Re: Tryin' 27 Mar 2016 20:48 #282681

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thanks613 wrote on 27 Mar 2016 20:28:

Gevura Shebyesod wrote on 27 Mar 2016 18:09:
If I remember correctly the gemora appears twice and in one of the places Rashi says that. 

Rashi Sotah 7B - "One who reveals (specifies) his sins.  To the public, for he appears as if he is not ashamed and disgraced by it."

Don't know how to write hebrew, but "lerabim, nireh she'eino (B"CH adds bosh v-) nichlam bedavar" 

Would that mean ten?
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Re: Tryin' 27 Mar 2016 20:50 #282682

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stillgoing wrote on 27 Mar 2016 20:31:

Harav cordnoy wrote on 27 Mar 2016 16:50:

Just remember one thing from all of this-that step five is fine in Halacha.





 

stillgoing wrote:
I clearly remember cordnoy once saying something to the effect of that he never reads a post thats more then two lines.  Being that i'm trying to emulate the great cordnoy.... there aint no way that i can focus on that post unless its on one those sights that are now blocked from my phone.



Nice to see all those intelligent sounding responses though. 




 

 Markz Wrote:(what happened to the post?) 

Read his last line, the rest is pirush 




Got it! Thanks. I'm still on 4, so I wouldn't know, but I've often wondered that even if it was not in perfect sync with halacha, is it really worse then viewing p--n etc...

That is why I wrote in my intro that I don't particularly care, but I will be asking a question on this....when I have time.
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Re: Tryin' 27 Mar 2016 22:58 #282691

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Harav cordnoy wrote on 27 Mar, 2016:
Just remember one thing from all of this-that step five is fine in Halacha

 That conclusion, both for the reasons you gave in your post and like markz says - it can't be worse than the alternative.

Re: Tryin' 27 Mar 2016 23:31 #282694

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cordnoy wrote on 23 Mar 2016 11:17:
So, if you are plannin' on viewin' pornography, go meet a girl instead.... Hmmm....So says the GYE chizuk emails. Perhaps guard has been drinkin' early.

Well, what Does it mean? Was he really drinking? Or maybe it was supposed to go to the ssa chizuk email... not a bad idea :-)
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Re: Tryin' 28 Mar 2016 17:21 #282764

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i truly do not have time, but i said i would, so i will simply write short:
There are seforim that compile these mareh mekomos:

1. Yuma 86b says not to publicize one's sin in public, for that will decrease the kevod shamayim.
2. chachmas shlomo 607 says that there are times on account of the obligation of tesdhuvah and viduy that one must reveal his sin, and on the contrary, if he doesn't, he hasn't fulfilled his obligation.
3. there might be a proof that one can tell another his sins in order to guide the other on the path of teshuvah. the explanation might be based on rashi who explains the prohibition as it is an indicator that he is not ashamed; if, however, he is doing it for the other to repent - that would not apply. [Nesivos on eichah palgei mayim 1:18; beis halevi vayera]
4. Tiferes Yisroel 4:21 writes that the kohen gadol can confess with a loud voice, and some explain that it is permitted for that is the nusach of the viduy.
5. Question: How can one bring a female goat as a chatas, for everyone will realize that he has sinned?
6. Reb Shlomo Kluger says that it would be preferable to bring a different animal as a chatas, where people will not realize that he sinned.
7. netziv cites Reb Refoel hamburger that on the contrary! If he brings a female goat, all of his sins will be forgiven, for he is even more ashamed.
8. Reb Elyashiv asks this question and he answers that this prohibition doesn't apply by an unintentional sin.
9. Magen Avraham says it applies even on a shogeg.
10. From the Rambam it seems that the prohibition is only if he specifies the exact sin.
11. Panim Meiros says this entire prohibition does not apply by a korban.

From this past discussion, it would seem that they all do not say that it is permitted because he is doing this for atonement.

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Re: Tryin' 03 Apr 2016 14:01 #283333

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Re: Tryin' 03 Apr 2016 14:16 #283335

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cordnoy wrote on 03 Apr 2016 14:01:
Love isn't hard to find; trust is!

How true, but imhi, 'found love' is not true love as opposed to 'built love', much like 'built trust'.
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