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Re: The Road To Being Honest With Myself (and others:) 23 May 2021 14:45 #368852

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Let it out here on the forum, it is normal to feel angry and resentful. However it is very achievable to get over with it. When you consider the big picture, that there is Someone running the show, who caused the baby to ruin it for you, perhaps that means the stars haven't fully aligned yet...
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Re: The Road To Being Honest With Myself (and others:) 23 May 2021 15:18 #368857

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Thank you LK.

I think what was most insightful, was first I was full of anger and resentment at my baby for not going to sleep, and I didn't even connect the two. Till I realized, the level of anger and resentment I was feeling was 95 percent connected to my desire for S**

Now I'm thinking over many of the times I feel a strong level of anger and resentment, and they also seem to be connected to when things get in the way of S**

As someone here on the forum said, we need to stop taking S** So damn serious
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Re: The Road To Being Honest With Myself (and others:) 23 May 2021 18:48 #368873

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I think what you did was amazing. I wish I may reach your level of self-honesty.
It takes true honesty to recognize our feelings, no matter how negative they are. It doesn't mean we are going to act on them. On the contrary, I imagine your putting the words out, helped dissipate the tension.
In fact, when we are angry, we tend to isolate, which makes things harder. You on the other hand, came forth.
Please keep posting and inspiring us.
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Re: The Road To Being Honest With Myself (and others:) 24 May 2021 17:57 #368928

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Check out my thread The Easy Peasy Method

Or just read the book. Based on Alan Carr's Easyway.

"All porn ever does is relieve the withdrawal symptoms that it causes, and it ceases to relieve them completely."
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Re: The Road To Being Honest With Myself (and others:) 24 May 2021 20:01 #368935

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ihadstringsbutnowimfree wrote on 24 May 2021 17:57:
You're reluctant to write the word 'sex', but not to write the word 'damn'.

You're absolutely right, we gotta take this sex stuff less damn seriously. It's not that serious!



I Have no problem writing the word Sex, I was just afraid of the the 
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Re: The Road To Being Honest With Myself (and others:) 25 May 2021 16:55 #368986

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Hakolhevel wrote on 25 May 2021 13:24:
Sorry everyone,.new price is $158.

I recommit to the challenge today.

It did help me immensely. It got me to 21 days and more importantly to start working a program, but the last few days I was lax... And it showed. 

One final note for those who are into surrender, I think it finally makes some sense to me. I'm not surrendering lust, I'm surrendering my "control" over lust, because I have none. I cannot control it and use it as I wish. When I buy that lie, it controls me, not the other way around. 

Thanks for listening and wish me good luck

I just want to add. At one point last night I did surrender my control over lust, and it worked. My desire to act out disappeared. At that moment I got scared. What, will this really work, does this mean the end of porn. Noooo!!!! And so I proceeded to make sure I act out.

This is why it's a twelve step program, not a one step program. Porn is still the most precious thing in my life and I can't envision life without it.

I will hope work for better days ahead, and hopefully more sane thinking. 

Thanks for listening
My Thread:The Road To Being Honest With Myself (and others:)

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Re: The Road To Being Honest With Myself (and others:) 25 May 2021 19:22 #368997

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There is an interesting fact that the addict’s drug of choice is not, as we would think, his or her problem; it’s a solution.  If it were their problem, they would eventually give it up. But because it is their solution—as a matter of fact, their only solution—they haven’t any real choice of going without it.

The addict uses his or her drug of choice because it serves a crucial, even vital, function. It actually allows them to live, just as food, air and sleep allow normal people to live. If you don’t get enough sleep, you become less productive, moody, even depressed. If you don’t get enough sleep long enough, your body will force you to go to sleep.

Never mind the fact that sleep is necessary for the body to function, and mood-altering chemicals are not. The fact is, for reasons we shall explain very soon, that if the addict could function without his or her drug of choice, then he or she wouldn’t be an addict.

Addiction is a pre-existing condition that drives a person to use. The addict actually uses in order to relieve the symptoms of addiction.

Recovery in a nutshell: addict gets tired of trying to make everything work; addict gives up and lets Higher Power take over; addict experiences unusual freedom, happiness and usefulness as long as, and to the extent that, addict does not renege on previous decision.

Active addiction is self-help (“I take care of myself the only way I know how, because no one else can or will”). Recovery is God-help (“I can’t continue trying to do for myself what only God can really do for me”). If one is a true addict, then one will not recover by trying to get his or her own addiction under control. By the time one is an addict, there is no human power that can make the addiction go away.

"If I am not for myself, who will be for me? But if I am only for myself, who am I? If not now, when?"
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Re: The Road To Being Honest With Myself (and others:) 28 May 2021 19:09 #369149

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Check out my thread The Easy Peasy Method

Or just read the book. Based on Alan Carr's Easyway.

"All porn ever does is relieve the withdrawal symptoms that it causes, and it ceases to relieve them completely."
Last Edit: 09 Sep 2021 21:07 by DeletedUser753.

Re: The Road To Being Honest With Myself (and others:) 28 May 2021 20:23 #369151

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ihadstringsbutnowimfree wrote on 28 May 2021 19:09:
One thing that's been very helpful to me is the "Doctor's Opinion" in the Big Book of AA. The idea of an obsession of the mind and allergy of the body was very clarifying. I recommend listening to the Joe and Charlie Big Book study (I found it on GYEworld.com, but others in meetings have told me it's good stuff) to hear it in a very relatable and entertaining way. I'm not an alcoholic, but their big book study and their explanation of the doctor's opinion has been one of the best practical things I've learned in this current period of recovery I'm in. Very clarifying explanation of powerlessness, very practical in keeping me sober, i.e. I can do a decent job of avoiding that first drink/lust hit. Because once I get that first lust hit, it's all over...or it will be shortly.

Also love their rendition of the big book story of Jim the car salesman, whose resentments eventually led him to believe that he could handle a shot of whiskey, if he just mixed it with some milk. Of course, this led to him getting drunk, etc. 

www.guardureyes.com/GUE/MP3/Joe%20&%20Charlie.zip

T'was part of our discussion on the call today.
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Re: The Road To Being Honest With Myself (and others:) 28 May 2021 21:00 #369152

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ihadstringsbutnowimfree wrote on 28 May 2021 19:09:
One thing that's been very helpful to me is the "Doctor's Opinion" in the Big Book of AA. The idea of an obsession of the mind and allergy of the body was very clarifying. I recommend listening to the Joe and Charlie Big Book study (I found it on GYEworld.com, but others in meetings have told me it's good stuff) to hear it in a very relatable and entertaining way. I'm not an alcoholic, but their big book study and their explanation of the doctor's opinion has been one of the best practical things I've learned in this current period of recovery I'm in. Very clarifying explanation of powerlessness, very practical in keeping me sober, i.e. I can do a decent job of avoiding that first drink/lust hit. Because once I get that first lust hit, it's all over...or it will be shortly.

Also love their rendition of the big book story of Jim the car salesman, whose resentments eventually led him to believe that he could handle a shot of whiskey, if he just mixed it with some milk. Of course, this led to him getting drunk, etc. 

www.guardureyes.com/GUE/MP3/Joe%20&%20Charlie.zip

Thanks, never knew about GYE's other website
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Re: The Road To Being Honest With Myself (and others:) 30 May 2021 18:13 #369214

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So for the first time I'm actually going through the big book, and other 12 step literature (plus joining some call)

I've been an admirer from afar for a while.

So heads up, I'll be posting lines on my thread that really speak to me.

Heres the first from the big book 

If we are planning to stop drinking, there must be no reservation of any kind, nor any lurking notion that someday we will be immune to alcohol.
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Re: The Road To Being Honest With Myself (and others:) 31 May 2021 13:39 #369260

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I saw one today in the Dr's Opinion: ..... one symptom in common: they cannot start drinkin' w/o developin' the phenomenon of cravin'.
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Re: The Road To Being Honest With Myself (and others:) 31 May 2021 22:58 #369280

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cordnoy wrote on 31 May 2021 13:39:
I saw one today in the Dr's Opinion: ..... one symptom in common: they cannot start drinkin' w/o developin' the phenomenon of cravin'.

Glad to see you're likin' the doctors opinion
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Re: The Road To Being Honest With Myself (and others:) 31 May 2021 23:21 #369283

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The first requirement is that we be convinced thatany life run on self-will can hardly be a success...

Most people try to live by self-propulsion. Each per-son is like an actor who wants to run the whole show;is forever trying to arrange the lights, the ballet, thescenery and the rest of the players in his own way. If his arrangements would only stay put, if only peoplewould do as he wished, the show would be great.Everybody, including himself, would be pleased. Lifewould be wonderful. In trying to make these arrange-ments our actor may sometimes be quite virtuous. Hemay be kind, considerate, patient, generous; evenmodest and self-sacrificing. On the other hand, hemay be mean, egotistical, selfish and dishonest. But,as with most humans, he is more likely to have variedtraits.What usually happens? The show doesn’t come offvery well. He begins to think life doesn’t treat himright. He decides to exert himself more. He becomes,on the next occasion, still more demanding or gracious,as the case may be. Still the play does not suit him.Admitting he may be somewhat at fault, he is surethat other people are more to blame. He becomesangry, indignant, self-pitying. What is his basictrouble? Is he not really a self-seeker even when try-ing to be kind? Is he not a victim of the delusion thathe can wrest satisfaction and happiness out of thisworld if he only manages well? Is it not evident to allthe rest of the players that these are the things hewants? And do not his actions make each of themwish to retaliate, snatching all they can get out of theshow? Is he not, even in his best moments, a pro-ducer of confusion rather than harmony?Our actor is self-centered—ego-centric,

- The Big Book
This part of the book hits hard. I'm an actor not the producer.
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Re: The Road To Being Honest With Myself (and others:) 01 Jun 2021 01:37 #369288

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Looks like some good stuff. Why don't you start a new thread so you can keep your journey separate, and give someone an opportunity to read through it and points of the Big Book separately. 
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