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Re: The Story Teller 22 Feb 2021 22:00 #363989

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Righteous Indignation

Chapter Thirteen 


June 17, 2011; Brooklyn N.Y.

Removed, as per requests due to being triggering.
Last Edit: 28 Feb 2021 14:08 by grant400.

Re: The Story Teller 24 Feb 2021 08:54 #364126

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Amazing story, very well written. However, I do find certain parts a bit triggering, for example this last chapter... Not sure it's healthy to leave us hanging in such a part, it leaves too much for the imagination... For the guys on GYE, it can trigger their own feelings of desire for these kinds of "adventures" if you know what I mean... Instead, I think we need to quickly jump to the part where he starts to see how messed up his life is and how pointless and meaningless it is to chase false pleasures!

(For anyone triggered, listen to this: gyeboost.org/archives/133)
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Re: The Story Teller 24 Feb 2021 14:35 #364144

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I sincerely apologize and ask mechila from those who have been negatively affected by the story, due to my carelessness. I did try very hard to keep it clean and edited according to suggestions for my mistakes that unfortunately slipped under the radar. As of now I'm not sure how to continue with the story line without discussing aspects which can be triggering. To just skip like R' Guard suggested may be pointless, because it will not be a journey of emotions that can connect to the reader and speak to his heart. Instead of will just be a cold, hard documentary, stating facts. Currently I'm at a loss. If anyone has any ideas, I'd greatly appreciate it. 

Again, I do apologize for my oversight and carelessness. 

                                    Grant

P.S. If there are people who believe I should erase all the chapters, please let me know as soon as possible. My objective was to entertain and benefit, not heaven forbid the opposite. 

Re: The Story Teller 24 Feb 2021 14:47 #364146

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I think the oilam has a problem with being left in suspense.

In all seriousness, I don't know if someone was a affected negatively. If yes, they should please voice their concerns.
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Last Edit: 24 Feb 2021 14:59 by lionking. Reason: Removed triggering spoiler

Re: The Story Teller 24 Feb 2021 15:04 #364147

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No need to apologize, you didn't do anything wrong. Like Lionking said, the problem isn't so much the triggers, it's more the leaving us in suspense - which I feel leaves too much to the imagination (if you know what I mean). I think you should continue writing the story as you planned, however, try not to leave it off at a part which leaves the reader room for imagining unhealthy things. Ideally, the reader should come away from each chapter with a lesson in how "messed up" this is. (And if a chapter doesn't end like that, perhaps you shouldn't post it until you have written the coming chapter that does!) 
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Re: The Story Teller 24 Feb 2021 15:08 #364148

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This might be about someone's struggles and maybe the ending is a place that the author is happy to arrive at but the journey being written seems like a slow moving romance novel to me....the last chapter and another one has some pretty triggering stuff...

Re: The Story Teller 24 Feb 2021 15:23 #364150

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I looked at this part of the story in this way.

This is exactly how my porn habit works.

I had a bad day, I blame everyone else. I head off to my fantasy land where some people "truly love me". There's fireworks, passion and pleasure.

Until it's all over and the facade is lifted and I'm in a much worse place then I was before.I don't need you to write the next part of the story for me to already know moe's fantasy will not work out. I've lived it so many times (in my porn addiction) to know how it goes. It seems sweet in the beginning, but it turns bitter quick.

As someone here said, there is no bad situation that porn won't make worse.

So I appreciate the story, even where it's at because it really depicts the facade. 

There was a custom here for a while where people would write disclaimers "warning this may be triggering". That's the only thing I would say maybe should be added, but honestly, some peoples real stories on this forum are more triggering than this
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Last Edit: 24 Feb 2021 16:48 by hakolhevel.

Re: The Story Teller 24 Feb 2021 16:17 #364154

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I want to state that it was Grant’s story that got me to really hop on the wagon and fight with all my kishkes. B”H I have had tremendous Hatzlocha. 
Grant, please don’t stop writing this story and please don’t change it. You showed me what this habit can do to my life and marriage. 
Without your story I’d still be in a land of yeiush constantly acting out in a vicious cycle. 
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Re: The Story Teller 24 Feb 2021 17:07 #364159

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This might be about someone's struggles and maybe the ending is a place that the author is happy to arrive at but the journey being written seems like a slow moving romance novel to me....the last chapter and another one has some pretty triggering stuff...For me too. 

But then I as I read it is it okay. I know that me reading this story can only lift me up

Re: The Story Teller 24 Feb 2021 17:18 #364160

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I think the benefits of the story overwhelm the negative that someone maybe will be triggered.

The emotions that grant puts in writing is surreal and gives a pretty good depiction of what we are going through.

One who has given up hope is without a G‑d.

One who sees hope in each day is already free

Re: The Story Teller 24 Feb 2021 17:34 #364162

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Im just suggesting that maybe there should be less left to the imagination in the story. Either way it's written so well I'm actually rooting for this guy and the woman he met in the deleted chapter. That's what I meant it was triggering. It hasn't caused me to actually do something in my own life that I would regret. By all means, continue the story.

Re: The Story Teller 24 Feb 2021 18:22 #364169

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Grant, please I hope the chapter can come back when you write the next part.

Where's Cord's when we need him. He usually has a few words regarding triggrin' stuff.
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Last Edit: 24 Feb 2021 18:23 by hakolhevel.

Re: The Story Teller 24 Feb 2021 21:08 #364183

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What a healthy shakla v'tarya going on here.

Yup - I find it triggering.

....yet this story played/s a critical piece in the complete change that I have undergone over the past 96 days.

May I suggest that it was (b'dieved) OK to be a bit exposed to the shmutz of a trashy novel - during the process of discovering that I was formerly no less than an adulterer and manipulator.

I vote that the General be allowed to do his thing and change more lives (and families).

Just my experience.

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Re: The Story Teller 24 Feb 2021 21:17 #364186

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Just as the Para Aduma, which was prepared in a place of impurity, contained within in it the possibility to both purify and contaminate, so too in these times of exile and Divine concealment we have the potential to become contaminated or purified, to build or destroy.

When Hashem's countenance is hidden from us, we are faced with contradictions from all sides. There are things that we can use to come closer to Hashem (and to recovery). If, however, those very same things are misused, they become the very vehicle to take us away from Him.
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Re: The Story Teller 24 Feb 2021 21:30 #364188

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Anything can be triggering. 

If someone writes 'I had an urge' it can fire people's imagination. 

I find, a serial such as this, causes more of a feeling of identifying with the characters, trying to get the connection between them (moe and the woman) than a feeling of wanting to picture what they could/will/may do. 

To spark ones imagination, you could just say 'girl' or something. 
A story is more about who is the good guy, who is bad, who just makes mistakes, who feels remorse etc, in other words, getting to know the persons as opposed to the technical details about what they will do next. 

​Or maybe I just don't know how to read a story 


A story written as well as this, especially as it touches a raw nerve for many of the readers, really brings out the feelings of wishing he would just rectify his marriage already, to acknowledge his behaviour and let us all sleep calmly... 
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