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Re: Navigating the ocean of my life 08 Nov 2024 14:25 #424697

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Stunning! Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Navigating the ocean of my life 08 Nov 2024 14:55 #424703

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Thank you for sharing this beautiful vort! When I met HHM (also a few months ago), he told me this vort too. At the time, I told him about an interesting phenomenon I'd noticed which shtimmed very nicely with this. There's an eitzah that I saw in a sefer I have on שמירת עינים called אשא עיני, which sometimes works for me. Remind yourself that the shiktzah you're stealing looks at, the body that you're lusting after, is a body made of ״אכילות שקץ והעכבר וכל מיני שרץ השורץ על הארץ״, and how מיאוס that is to a yid. Kind of everyone's favorite "humanizing" vort here on GYE, but on steroids. Now, obviously this doesn't always work for me, but here's my point, while it does sometimes work when encountered a goyish girl in person, it 100% of the time does NOT work when looking at girls online. I think it may be because when we look at a picture of someone, there's no human there, just an image, free for us to use as we please, and, as you said, just see her through desire-tinted glasses.
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Last Edit: 08 Nov 2024 15:45 by iwantlife.

Re: Navigating the ocean of my life 08 Nov 2024 15:47 #424705

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amevakesh wrote on 08 Nov 2024 05:26:
A few months ago, during a conversation with HHM, he told me a priceless Vort on this weeks פרשה that speaks to the struggle. I think that it’s a מצוה to share so here goes.

The פסוק in this weeks פרשה says when אברהם and שרה traveled to מצרים, he told her הנה נא ידעתי כי אשה יפת מראה את. Rashi is bothered, why does it say הנה נא which implies that he only realized that she was pretty now. רש"י gives 3 answers. The first one  is, עד עכשיו לא הכיר בה מתוך צניעות שבשניהם, ועכשיו הכיר בה ע"י מעשה .

רבינו בחיי explains that from here we see that אברהם never looked at שרה up until that point. Astounding!

Some אחרונים ask on רבינו בחיי, isn’t there a הלכה that אסור לאדם לישא אשה עד שיראנה? Various answers are given in the אחרונים. Some say that if the whole problem is that she won’t be pleasing to the husband, then אברהם knew that for him it wouldn’t make a difference. Others say that he really did know what she looked like, it’s just that he never gazed at her, hence the לשון of לא הכיר בה. Others say that until now he only saw her face, but now he saw her thigh.

זאגט HHM in the name of someone I forgot, that the מדרש תנחומא relates, that as they approached the gates of מצרים, they passed by a body of water, and אברהם saw שרה’s reflection shining like the sun, he saw her beauty and he realized that he had a problem on his hands. Of course אברהם knew what she looked like, perhaps he even gazed at her (this wouldn’t fit with רבינו בחיי). But until that moment when he looked at her, he saw “HER” - her essence, the radiance of her נשמה which shone forth so brightly it eclipsed any physicality one could possibly attribute to her. However, when he saw her reflection in the water, all he saw was her image, because he wasn’t looking at שרה herself. Suddenly, he realized that it might be possible for lowly people to see her through a lens of desire for the physical beauty, that when he realized the problem. The lesson is self evident. Good Shabbos!

i thought this פשט from HHM you mentioned  is פשט in the first פשט in rashi (with a twist), rashi has an additional few words to this medrish,
" עד עכשיו לא הכיר בה מתוך צניעות שבשניהם ועכשיו הכיר בה ע"י מעשה"
צניעות - means = פנימיות (see "מכתב מאליהו "צניעות)
its not that avrom didnt look @ sara, nor does it mean she wore a berka,
he new water reflects and he woudnt of looked,  or he wouldve seen a berka in the reflection.
waht rashi saying is, of course he new how sara looked and her beauty chazal say the mothers were beautiful to save from sin, and she had a special name because of her beauty (see מדרש)
the פשט is,
he didnt recognize her because everything was פנימיות he always saw her חיצוניות through her פנימיות, he never recognized her beauty as something separate of her soul essence, theres no 2 things "her and her beauty"
until he saw her reflection only her image just חיצוניות, he said now i recognize that your beauty, can be seen by others as a thing for itself just חיצוני,
then there could be trouble.


tried to be clear
potentially  true פשט
cande'
Last Edit: 10 Nov 2024 05:08 by cande.

Re: Navigating the ocean of my life 10 Nov 2024 16:25 #424761

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Not gonna lie. Been slipping in some of the גדרים that I've set up for myself. Two of my weaknesses are sports and politics. The World Series and the elections didn't help things out. My recreational use of internet has gone way up, and the content of what I'm watching is slowly changing, not for the better. It hasn't descended in to any lust, and I don't think it will, but I don't want to take any chances. It has to stop now. So I'm making a קבלה ברבים on the forums that at least until Chanukah there will be no recreational use of internet (besides for GYE of course). This includes news, sports, politics. Hopefully, this will help me reestablish the fences that have held me strong until now.
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Re: Navigating the ocean of my life 10 Nov 2024 17:01 #424764

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Yaasher Koach Brother and Hatzlacha!
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