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Re: Keeping Curiosity In Check 27 Jun 2011 01:51 #109638

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Hi,

This is my first post on the site. I want to post my intro. but I have been off & on debating with myself where I should post it. Finally, when things got very bad last couple months I decided to type it up in word & copy and paste it, but it's taking me a while organize my thoughts about I got to this point of becoming p**n & masturbation addict but it all started with curiosity.  I started to look at porn at when I in late teens/ early twenties. Before that I was pretty good about staying away from these things. I do not remember exactly date when I starting doing it, but I remember the trigging event. I was watching Dateline / 60 minutes or one of these type show & they were doing a segment about Asian girls being forced in to prostitution in NYC. The segment made me very sad about the girls’ situation but on other hand was very curious about. Out of curiosity I decided to Google it & stumbled on to porn sites. One of my reservations about doing this was that I knew that porn was addictive, but I thought I could just do this one time & of course I was wrong.     
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Re: Keeping Curiosity In Check 29 Jun 2011 19:57 #109918

  • oisgemutzet
I actually have your same problem of curiosity and i find that gearing it intulectually helps
also i find that the friediker skulener rebeh wrote a kuntress on this inyan that helps me alot
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Re: Keeping Curiosity In Check 29 Jun 2011 23:34 #109960

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Thank you for your reply. I have been trying to focus on more intellectual things like learning Amud Yomi / Mishna Yomi, but over last couple of years I have been struggling with a sleeping disorder and often have headaches / trouble concentrating. Lately, there have been improvements with sleep, so I am hoping to start on some kind of learning cycle that is out there.   
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Re: Keeping Curiosity In Check 30 Jun 2011 04:58 #109975

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Dear  oisgemutzet

Welcome to our community, you have finally come home!

We're all in the same boat here. Tzuras Rabim Chatzi Nechama   Once you've arrived, there's no turning back. Everyone here will just grab a hold of you and pull you up with them!

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May Hashem be with you!
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Re: Keeping Curiosity In Check 18 May 2015 02:13 #254941

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Yosef Hatzadik wrote:
Mar amar chada, umar amar chada, v'lo paligi.

What you posted is not what I am referring to, though.  ;D




I was referring to specifically something which is non-Torah or Recovery or Street related!

Anytime ANYTHING piques your curiosity, for example when you hear the door to the room creak (or is it squeaks ?) open, the natural tendency of most people - especially the curious kind - is to turn their head to see who just walked in. We should try to avoid those urges. We should NOT turn to look. The act of NOT GIVING IN to our curiosity will train us to be a bit less curious. It will teach us that we do not have to 'check this out'....


Some good techniques here.
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