Just to be polite to my sweet friends here, this is to report that b"H all is well but I am taking a break from the forum for a while to focus on my own recovery. I will be checking email for PMs, though. The forum is just too much time for me to handle. Maybe for a few weeks, maybe a few months...no way to know, cuz it really is one day at a time. Love you!

Till then,

Dov

Whatever you need to recover, Dov. We'll miss you.


Love you too.

I've been meaning to post this for a while just haven't had a chance.  This should get the posts rolling.  I recently came across this Chofetz Chaim and it blew me away:

והנה כל זה הוא למי שעדין לא הרגיל נפשו בעון זה, ונקל
לו להנצל מעון המר הזה על ידי עצות אלו. אבל אם
הרגל בזה, וקשה לו מאד לפרש מעוין זה, יתנהג במחלתו הנפשית הזו, כמו מי שיש לו חלי הגוף והרופא רוצה לרפאותו,
הוא דורש את מקור המחלה, מאין באה אליו, כדי שידע איזו
תחבשת לזור על המחלה. כן הוא בענין הנפש, צריך להתחקות
על שרשה, מאין באה למדה רעה זו, כדי שידע להזהר לסור
ממוקשיה עוד. והנה לעון הזה נמצאו כמה סבות, וסימנם
״כ״ל גיהנ״ם״. כעס, ליצנות, גאוה, יאוש, הפקר, נרגנות, אומר
מתר. ונבאר דברינו אחת לאחת.

Applying the Chofetz Chaim's words linyonanu. 

All the mussar I've given until now is great for someone who isn't  addicted to this but for the addict that's a different story.  An addict has to approach this like a sickness.

"All illness of this sort—and we have come to believe it an illness"  Big Book, Chapter One

Now how does one treat this spiritual illness.  He looks to the source of the disease. 

"Our liquor was but a symptom.  So we had to get down to causes and conditions"  Big Book, Chapter Five

The source of this spiritual disease is our anger, our pride, our laytznos, depression, etc.

"Resentment is the number one offender.  It destroys more alcoholics than anything else. From it stem all forms of spiritual disease, for we have been not only mentally and physically ill, we have been spiritually sick."


Everything is in the Torah 

where is this chafetz chaim? i want to see the biur achas achas, thanx.

Thanks UAJ - Pure Gold!

Yes, the makor pleeeease.

ur-a-jew wrote on 14 Feb 2012 22:08:

BTW, you know that you can right justify it like I just did.

TehillimZugger wrote on 15 Feb 2012 11:32:

ur-a-jew wrote on 15 Feb 2012 15:59:

I was looking for it in on the left side  :-[  ;D. oops. I guess be careful what you wish for.

For short qotes I'm not sure that it makes a difference.  I meant for the longer ones that wrap.

dov wrote on 14 Feb 2012 21:42:


I never thought this would happen to DOV!

--Elyah

i hope nothing 'happened' to Dov. it sounds like he just wanted a break from forumming.

he's done it in the past and he has returned

I'm pretty sure he plans to return.  I think he just had too many plates spinning at once.

נרגנות, אומר
מתר.
what's that?

What's what?

narganus

translation.babylon.com/hebrew/to-english/%D7%A0%D7%A8%D7%92%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%AA/

adj. grumbling, quarrelsome, querulous, sniveler, sniveling, snivelling, yammerer, disagreeable, discontented
nf. grumbling, crankiness, querulousness, shrewishness, snivel, disagreeableness
v. to complain, grumble

omer muttar is probably 'thinking it is permitted'

gibbor120 wrote on 16 Feb 2012 22:42:

www.guardyoureyes.org/forum/index.php?topic=2893.msg133003#msg133003
near the end of the hebrew