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Re: My Story 09 May 2017 09:37 #312635

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shmirashachaim wrote on 09 May 2017 03:21:

LifneiHashem wrote on 08 May 2017 01:53:
Welcome! I also grew up religious but out of touch and uninterested in Judaism.  As you correctly pointed out, the two issues (lust and lack of interest in religion) are not dependent on each other. I rediscovered meaningful religious life many years before addressing lust issues. 

Sorry, but it would be great if you can explain a little bit in what you mean. 

 For a second I thought you meant by lust and lack of interest in religion not being dependent on each other sort of like Shlomo's comment that lust isn't simply a religious transgression. But it seemed that you explained that by saying that you rediscovered meaningful religious life many years before addressing lust issues. Does that mean your lusting didn't effect the meaning in your religious life? Are you saying lust has nothing to do with spirituality has no relation? 

So, if possible, can you explain what you mean by
1) lust and lack of interest in religion not being dependent on each other, and 
 2) you rediscovered meaningful religious life many years before addressing lust issues.

I apologize if i'm not getting the obvious.. this is something that has been on my mind. You don't have to get too much into your personal life. Don't want to intrude. 

My 2c on 1):

Lust inflicts my sanity. Religious or not, if I want a good life, I need to be sane. Normal, able to deal with things and not just to damage everything with my selfishness. This is something the Torah presupposes.

My 2c on 2):

What religious life? Was there quality to it? I guess only God will know ;-)
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Re: My Story 09 May 2017 13:33 #312656

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shmirashachaim wrote on 09 May 2017 03:21:

LifneiHashem wrote on 08 May 2017 01:53:
Welcome! I also grew up religious but out of touch and uninterested in Judaism.  As you correctly pointed out, the two issues (lust and lack of interest in religion) are not dependent on each other. I rediscovered meaningful religious life many years before addressing lust issues. 

Sorry, but it would be great if you can explain a little bit in what you mean. 

 For a second I thought you meant by lust and lack of interest in religion not being dependent on each other sort of like Shlomo's comment that lust isn't simply a religious transgression. But it seemed that you explained that by saying that you rediscovered meaningful religious life many years before addressing lust issues. Does that mean your lusting didn't effect the meaning in your religious life? Are you saying lust has nothing to do with spirituality has no relation? 

So, if possible, can you explain what you mean by
1) lust and lack of interest in religion not being dependent on each other, and 
 2) you rediscovered meaningful religious life many years before addressing lust issues.

I apologize if i'm not getting the obvious.. this is something that has been on my mind. You don't have to get too much into your personal life. Don't want to intrude. 

Thanks for asking. Actually I was saying close to what Shlomo said. I, like many others used to view this as a religious struggle- I need to work on this because its an aveira. I also need to work on my lashon hara. That approach didn't get me too far. I went through periods of "teshuva" followed by sinning again, or at times giving up on this aveira and focusing on improving other aspects of my religious practice. Real change started Only when I finally woke up and realized that I need to address this not because it's a sin but rather because it is actually negatively affecting my life. I think Mr confusios has an advantage in this respect, because he already came to this conclusion. I hope that clarifies somewhat.
Last Edit: 09 May 2017 13:36 by LifneiHashem.

Re: My Story 09 May 2017 20:47 #312700

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Gevura Shebyesod wrote on 08 May 2017 23:42:
This is a Jewish site... we do have the occasional Xtian, and there even was a Moslem or 2. I don't know if we ever had any Chinese philosophers before. Just go easy on the deep stuff, or you might confuse-us

Ha! 
I actually know zero philosophy. For some reason Confucius popped into mu head as a username. 

Re: My Story 09 May 2017 20:51 #312701

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LifneiHashem wrote on 09 May 2017 01:18:

Confucius wrote on 08 May 2017 23:33:
I was asking that seriously. 
Am I silly for not assuming that everyone on here follows Judaism?

Sorry, I assumed you were joking. Yes I found meaning in my Judaism. 

No worries.
I wasn't sure how varying in terms of religious beliefs people on here were.
I did know this is a Jewish site.
Sounds like you have an interesting story.
Looking forward to reading more of your insight. 

Re: My Story 09 May 2017 20:54 #312702

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LifneiHashem wrote on 09 May 2017 13:33:

shmirashachaim wrote on 09 May 2017 03:21:

LifneiHashem wrote on 08 May 2017 01:53:
Welcome! I also grew up religious but out of touch and uninterested in Judaism.  As you correctly pointed out, the two issues (lust and lack of interest in religion) are not dependent on each other. I rediscovered meaningful religious life many years before addressing lust issues. 

Sorry, but it would be great if you can explain a little bit in what you mean. 

 For a second I thought you meant by lust and lack of interest in religion not being dependent on each other sort of like Shlomo's comment that lust isn't simply a religious transgression. But it seemed that you explained that by saying that you rediscovered meaningful religious life many years before addressing lust issues. Does that mean your lusting didn't effect the meaning in your religious life? Are you saying lust has nothing to do with spirituality has no relation? 

So, if possible, can you explain what you mean by
1) lust and lack of interest in religion not being dependent on each other, and 
 2) you rediscovered meaningful religious life many years before addressing lust issues.

I apologize if i'm not getting the obvious.. this is something that has been on my mind. You don't have to get too much into your personal life. Don't want to intrude. 

Thanks for asking. Actually I was saying close to what Shlomo said. I, like many others used to view this as a religious struggle- I need to work on this because its an aveira. I also need to work on my lashon hara. That approach didn't get me too far. I went through periods of "teshuva" followed by sinning again, or at times giving up on this aveira and focusing on improving other aspects of my religious practice. Real change started Only when I finally woke up and realized that I need to address this not because it's a sin but rather because it is actually negatively affecting my life. I think Mr confusios has an advantage in this respect, because he already came to this conclusion. I hope that clarifies somewhat.

This makes a lot of sense.
​I definitely think this outlook is beneficial for people like me who are still going through "the religious journey."

Re: My Story 09 May 2017 21:00 #312705

With an attitude like this you shall go far


KOMTNMW
my thread:guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-On-the-Way-to-90-Days/300426-I-will-make-it-bh" option="guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-On-the-Way-to-90-Days/300426-I-will-make-it-bh">I will make it b"h











very important thread: guardyoureyes.com/forum/20-Important-Threads/19180-FEEL-THE-HUGS%21%21%21" option="guardyoureyes.com/forum/20-Important-Threads/19180-FEEL-THE-HUGS%21%21%21">FEEL THE HUGS!!!

Re: My Story 09 May 2017 21:11 #312710

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MayanHamisgaber wrote on 09 May 2017 21:00:
With an attitude like this you shall go far


KOMTNMW

if i may ask (not related to this thread) what is KOMTNMW stand for?
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להטות לבבנו אליו ללכת בכל דרכיו ולשמר מצותיו וחקיו ומשפטיו אשר צוה את אבתינו
כי עיקר מציאות האדם בעה"ז הוא רק לקיים מצות ולעמד בניסיון,  והנאות העולם אין ראוי שיהו לו אלא לעזר ולסיוע בלבד לשיהיה לו נחת רוח ויישוב הדעת למען יוכל לפנות לבו אל העבודה הזאת מסילת ישרים

Re: My Story 09 May 2017 21:14 #312713

KEEP ON MONSTA TRUCKING NO MATTER WHAT

AS PER THE REBBE REB BARDS SHLITA (hic)
my thread:guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-On-the-Way-to-90-Days/300426-I-will-make-it-bh" option="guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-On-the-Way-to-90-Days/300426-I-will-make-it-bh">I will make it b"h











very important thread: guardyoureyes.com/forum/20-Important-Threads/19180-FEEL-THE-HUGS%21%21%21" option="guardyoureyes.com/forum/20-Important-Threads/19180-FEEL-THE-HUGS%21%21%21">FEEL THE HUGS!!!

Re: My Story 09 May 2017 21:34 #312722

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thanks
My email:jacdoja@gmail.com
My threads: my long נסיעה of almost 30 years ~ My Book of Business ~ My Upcoming Dilemma

להטות לבבנו אליו ללכת בכל דרכיו ולשמר מצותיו וחקיו ומשפטיו אשר צוה את אבתינו
כי עיקר מציאות האדם בעה"ז הוא רק לקיים מצות ולעמד בניסיון,  והנאות העולם אין ראוי שיהו לו אלא לעזר ולסיוע בלבד לשיהיה לו נחת רוח ויישוב הדעת למען יוכל לפנות לבו אל העבודה הזאת מסילת ישרים

Re: My Story 09 May 2017 21:40 #312725

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Confucius wrote on 09 May 2017 20:47:

Gevura Shebyesod wrote on 08 May 2017 23:42:
This is a Jewish site... we do have the occasional Xtian, and there even was a Moslem or 2. I don't know if we ever had any Chinese philosophers before. Just go easy on the deep stuff, or you might confuse-us

Ha! 
I actually know zero philosophy. For some reason Confucius popped into mu head as a username. 

Definition of zero philosophy = Plato claimed that numbers exist in some mind-independent abstract heaven. Nominalists claim that there is no such heaven. Clearly, we can't see, hear, taste or feel numbers. But if there are no numbers what is mathematics all about?
I'm all about that (substantial) bass, no trouble ....

Re: My Story 09 May 2017 23:21 #312737

That's what I assumed. I guess I was thrown off by how you "rediscovered meaningful religious life many years before addressing lust issues". I was curious what you meant by that. But I got your main point as you clarified quite well. Thank you. 

Re: My Story 11 May 2017 04:22 #312854

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MayanHamisgaber wrote on 09 May 2017 21:00:
With an attitude like this you shall go far


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I hope so!
Thank you for the kind words. 

Re: My Story 11 May 2017 04:23 #312855

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Trouble wrote on 09 May 2017 21:40:

Confucius wrote on 09 May 2017 20:47:

Gevura Shebyesod wrote on 08 May 2017 23:42:
This is a Jewish site... we do have the occasional Xtian, and there even was a Moslem or 2. I don't know if we ever had any Chinese philosophers before. Just go easy on the deep stuff, or you might confuse-us

Ha! 
I actually know zero philosophy. For some reason Confucius popped into mu head as a username. 

Definition of zero philosophy = Plato claimed that numbers exist in some mind-independent abstract heaven. Nominalists claim that there is no such heaven. Clearly, we can't see, hear, taste or feel numbers. But if there are no numbers what is mathematics all about?

My brain hurts just trying to understand what you are saying. 
Def above my pay grade. 

Re: My Story 11 May 2017 05:01 #312858

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Welcome Confucious. With Hashem's help you will break free of the insanity of "needing" to act out. As this issue settles, your religious concerns will lessen and everything will fall into place. A diabetic who is out of whack, in and out of the hospital, etc has no time or emotional strength to come to terms with any confusion he has with religion. Once the sugar/insulin has been regulated and he feels like a human being again, he can dedicate thought and time to the philosophical issues..... Wishing you much success. And welcome to the family.
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Re: My Story 12 May 2017 02:30 #312932

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Hashem Help Me wrote on 11 May 2017 05:01:
Welcome Confucious. With Hashem's help you will break free of the insanity of "needing" to act out. As this issue settles, your religious concerns will lessen and everything will fall into place. A diabetic who is out of whack, in and out of the hospital, etc has no time or emotional strength to come to terms with any confusion he has with religion. Once the sugar/insulin has been regulated and he feels like a human being again, he can dedicate thought and time to the philosophical issues..... Wishing you much success. And welcome to the family.

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