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Re: getting there after to many lost years 01 May 2017 18:38 #312023

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Welcome!  You have certainly come to the right place.  And you are not alone by a longshot! 

You have already identified 2 very common triggers. Stress and lonliness.  Those triggers are often overlooked.  It is seen as a problem with taivah, but really it is a "living problem".  We deal with difficulties in life by self medicating/self soothing.  This alone is a great step forward.

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Re: getting there after to many lost years 01 May 2017 20:47 #312031

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gibbor120 wrote on 01 May 2017 18:38:

You have already identified 2 very common triggers. Stress and lonliness.  Those triggers are often overlooked.  It is seen as a problem with taivah, but really it is a "living problem".  We deal with difficulties in life by self medicating/self soothing.  This alone is a great step forward.

Right on, and so well put. I myself just didn't get, that stress was such a major trigger. Looking back it should have been  obvious.

Hatzlocho!


Re: getting there after to many lost years 02 May 2017 11:53 #312081

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Thank you, i will look at the links and the handbook i started reading - some really great help in there.

Re: getting there after to many lost years 02 May 2017 11:54 #312082

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as my wife knows about it, she obviously looks at me differently, for example if i go shopping she gets upset. What are you experiences with that? does it get better with time?

Re: getting there after to many lost years 02 May 2017 12:09 #312083

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Not speaking from personal experience. My guess is that she needs to learn to trust you again. The question is how to make that happen.
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Made it 259 days from 01/28/17-10/15/17 without mz"l. At day 90, I started to go for all aspects of שמירת עניים\הברית. At day 168 I fell with שמירת עניים & restarted the count. On approximately November 4 2017, with the support of a fellow GYE brother (daily text messages/phone calls), I restarted. This round I'm working on שמירת הברית as well as שמירת עניים.

Re: getting there after to many lost years 02 May 2017 12:11 #312084

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getthere wrote on 02 May 2017 11:54:
as my wife knows about it, she obviously looks at me differently, for example if i go shopping she gets upset. What are you experiences with that? does it get better with time?

Is she getting upset because you are looking at all the sights?

Re: getting there after to many lost years 02 May 2017 12:25 #312085

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my shopping plans used to be made with consideration where the most and best looking girls are, that was until about a year ago - since then my recovery took a turn to positive. 
My wife does not usually go shopping with me, but we do go for walks together and she knows that i try my best to control my eyes with sometimes more and sometimes less success and she also realises what Yetzer Hora there is for men to look. But this has not helped so far, she still gets upset. 

Re: getting there after to many lost years 02 May 2017 12:27 #312086

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It's a trust factor.

It'sI a disgust factor.

And more.

As she knows about it, it will probably be healthy for the marriage to have an open conversation about your recovery tactics and what her role in this will be.

A mentor in this is crucial.

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Re: getting there after to many lost years 02 May 2017 12:42 #312088

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bb0212 wrote on 02 May 2017 12:09:
Not speaking from personal experience. My guess is that she needs to learn to trust you again. The question is how to make that happen.

The answer is that we cannot 'make' that happen. We must focus on recovery.
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If one gives up at the first sign of a struggle, he is really not ready to be successful."
"Tryin' and doin' are two different thin's - tryin' is hopin'; doin' is succeedin'.
"The right thin' to do and the hard thin' to do are usually the same."


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Re: getting there after to many lost years 02 May 2017 12:50 #312090

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cordnoy wrote on 02 May 2017 12:27:
A mentor in this is crucial.

B'hatzlachah

I guess it will take some time. I see a therapist and he helps a lot to understand it better. 
I will try to have an open conversation with my wife - would anyway be good.

Re: getting there after to many lost years 02 May 2017 17:18 #312121

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Be patient and understanding with her. Most of us who even have this compulsion have learned so much since starting on GYE and on a program for recovery. Many of us, myself included continue to be a student of this issue. As well, she was not aware she was signing up for this when she went under the chuppah. The silver lining is that a number of guys on this very forum have attested to the fact that 1) with recovery and 2) time - their marriage became mega better 

Hatzlocho

Re: getting there after to many lost years 02 May 2017 17:45 #312122

Still waiting for the mega better part 
However I can say that when it does happen it is very satisfying 

(hope to post soon on my thread about this)
my thread:guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-On-the-Way-to-90-Days/300426-I-will-make-it-bh" option="guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-On-the-Way-to-90-Days/300426-I-will-make-it-bh">I will make it b"h











very important thread: guardyoureyes.com/forum/20-Important-Threads/19180-FEEL-THE-HUGS%21%21%21" option="guardyoureyes.com/forum/20-Important-Threads/19180-FEEL-THE-HUGS%21%21%21">FEEL THE HUGS!!!

Re: getting there after to many lost years 03 May 2017 00:47 #312166

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Define mega please.
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If one gives up at the first sign of a struggle, he is really not ready to be successful."
"Tryin' and doin' are two different thin's - tryin' is hopin'; doin' is succeedin'.
"The right thin' to do and the hard thin' to do are usually the same."


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Re: getting there after to many lost years 03 May 2017 03:10 #312171

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much in this case

Re: getting there after to many lost years 03 May 2017 06:31 #312184

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ok, i'll keep working on myself and my marriage and keep you informed of whats going on.
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