Anxiously awaiting Cordnoy's access to a computer to give us his dissection and explain why he loves the post while disagreeing with it.
My half a cent -
waydown wrote:
Firstly, why are you taking off your glasses when you walk? Do you realize every time you take off your glasses you are subconciously thinikng about women. Lust addicts have to work on being "normal" yet not taking in the shmutz. Doing crazy abnoraml things never help the situation. That doesn't mean that you should walk down a shmutzadik untznuis alley or street just to train yourself not to look. But not only do I think its useless, I think doing these farchnauikda stuff just exasporates the situation.
Everyone's different.
I could argue that your first 2 points contradict each other; that working on being "normal" includes acknowledging that there is a woman walking down the street towards me that I will do my best not to look at.
I once made a kabolah for one week in Elul to take off my glasses in the street only for the one block from my house to shul, and I didn't feel farfrumt, I felt good that I was actively expressing my desire to be more makpid on shiras eynayim. (I didn't tell my wife because I knew she would tell me to be "normal" - but my kids told her
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Re ladies dressed up in shul, personally the fact that they wera makeup and dress their best incites me. Even if they were dressed tznuis it would incite me. Yes non tznuis adds to the incitment. But my point is a yiddisha lady especailly on yom tov should look their best. Its yom tov and they should look the prettiest they can in a tznuisdik fashion. I just don't think the incitment comes from so much of the untznuis part as it does from our lust. Yes if they wore rags I wouldn't lust. (Maybe I would because I am a sick indvidual but most people).
Beautiful - women should look their best for Yomtov in a tzniusdig way. Thank you.
Generally, since it is the week of the hiliega berdichiva's yartzeit, I will say the following. In our own yiddisha circles our females have exceled in tznuis tremendously over the past 75 years. My mother a hiemisha lady grew up wearing short sleeves till bas mitzva. And her bungalow had mixed swiiming for a while. When I grew up the schools were not nearly as strict as making little girls age 5& up wear at least knee socks even in 100 degrees. Our grandmothers pre WW2 dressed far differnetly from what we would like to envison. I am not knocking prior doros. They had their nisayns and they were more sincere and erlich. But I strongly believe that while the world has been taking off their clothing over the past 50 years us yidden have enhanced our tznuis tremedously.
Obviously the nisayon of lust is a thousandfold stronger than it was, and just because they were wrong, (yes, not covering your hair is wrong for a woman, which is an example you didn't mention), in their accepted norms doesn't have any relevance to me today.