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Re: curious 29 Dec 2014 19:35 #246053

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Welcome,

we are either lustin' or we aren't.
What are we doin' to prevent it - that is the question.

We look forward to hearin' more from you.

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Re: curious 29 Dec 2014 20:02 #246058

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There's a line in the white book (or big book) that says "half measures availed us nothing". It's tempting to try to do it piecemeal, but it doesn't work that way. I tried for years to stop acting out. Little by little, I realized that allowing x but not y, did not help at all.

I made red lines, I will not let zera come out. Then, I will not touch myself. I will not look at pictures... at women in the street. I will not fantasize. The bottom line is, that as long as I held on to any form of lust, it just led to all the rest anyway.

There is a great Or Hachayim that says if we don't guard our eyes from looking and our mind from fantasizing, we cannot expect to overcome the yetzer hora.

We really need a zero tolerance policy.

That DOES NOT MEAN that you should feel bad if you fail at any point.

The yetzer hora tells us x is not so bad. Then once we do it, he tell us. How could you do x. You are such a rasha. You might as well do y too.

We need the opposite approach. When a temptation comes, we need to say, "THIS WILL KILL ME. I CAN'T AFFORD IT". If we fall, we need to forgive ourselves and move on. Guilt does not help in this area. It just makes things worse.

I hope this helps.

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Re: curious 29 Dec 2014 20:06 #246062

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I had a fall today with mz"l but thank God it wasn't by means of watching p***, does mz"l without p*** have the same bad effect mentally by strengthening the bad neuro pathways or does it have a lesser effect? What I'm really asking is, not to make it "muttar" so to speak, but to know if this could be used as a "stepping stone" to break free?


Lust is lust.

Masturbation, porn, fantasy thoughts, literature, even looking at tznius-dressed women with improper thoughts - it's all the same poison. One is not better than the other; they all feed the desires and gives them life.
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