Hi everyone,

I was learning some chassidus and read that there is a direct connection between how much money one receives, and shmiras habris.

That's why I'm here.  I want money.

Prikei Avos says “Calculate the cost of a mitzvah against its reward, and the reward of a sin against its cost.” (2:1)

I enjoyed self-pleasure, but would rather have great wealth instead. 

Hi and welcome,
just for the record, i would like some money too
and as the pros here say, sometimes the only thing that works is "enlightened self-interest"
below is the official 'welcome package', please take the time to go through it, it is the key to your success here...
wishing you much much hatzlocha
zs


Welcome to our community, you have finally come home!

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May Hashem be with you!

shmiras habris brings $$$

yosef hu hamashbir

If I were you, I would Chap Arein while you're running after money and stick to the tools on this site (including the forum) and that way you will have a real Ratzon to not sin. Don't rely just on your want for money. That could be hard to keep up. (You may reach a point where you'd rather have fun than have money and the Yetzer is very good at convincing).

I thought I was the only one here for the gelt....

SO MONEY CAN BRING HAPINESS............

re: kidush ashem  (sanctified guilt?)

How is receiving more money not a "real ratzon"? 

How many Jews think that they have a "real ratzon" because they want to have
a "clean neshama" and have a good "olam haba" - when they have no clue what any of the phrases in quotes mean???

Obviously, so many sinners started out with these "real" ratzonos.

I want money.  It's a powerful desire.  It happens to be that I want to do
mitzvos with my money, but so what?

I want money.  It's a powerful human desire.  More powerful than...well...you know....

I think what he he meant by a real ration is a "deeper ratzon". If your life is laden with an addiction then you have no life at all. So yes, there is nothing wrong with money being your driving force, however, once you are really cleansing yourself, and you take an honest look at yourself, then believe me, you will have a deeper ratzon! If you take an honest look at yourself then you won't need money to drive you to be clean!

here is a joke (for free)

if you type guardyoureyes with the hebrew keyboard setting it spells
עושרגטםור...
which is עושר גט מור
"oisher get more"
shefa bracha vehatzlacha
cheers

zem - funny!

ok, zemmy, what is the gematriah for guardyoureyes? (you can try it both with and without the ".org", not sure what the gematriah of the "dot" is) You're on a roll.

When i read the words I thought it was saying wealth (leads to) bitter divorce. i guess your is a better choice.
ZemirosShabbos wrote on 07 Sep 2011 17:36:

ובחרת בחיים

did you try writing that in English on the Hebrew key bored?ZemirosShabbos wrote on 07 Sep 2011 18:06:

milehashem wrote on 06 Sep 2011 12:13:


Welcome!
Whatever works for you!  As long as it keeps working.
Personally I'm in it for the brains.  I wanted my mind back.

What would happen if you won the lottery tomorrow?

Alex