now THAT is what I call being positive!!!

I one heard a story about a man about to jump off the building.. the police did not know what to do.

finally someone had an idea.. and he came to talk to the man.
he told the man on the ledge to look down at the reflection near the sidewalk.. the man explained that there was a CRAZY man on the street watching the whole thing.. and he exclaimed that if the man on the ledge jumped he would take his knife and CHOP down the whole building - thus causing a LOT of innocent people to loose their lives.

The man pleaded with the man on the ledge not to jump becaue the guy on the street was CRAZY and SERIOUS - he would really chop the building down!

this was too much for the man on the ledge he came in - the thought of innocent people suffering because of him was too much for him to handle.

when dealing with crazy thoughts - we have to fight back with crazier thoughts! !

fascinating stuff this enneagram

thank you for sharing

no picnic being a 4,that's for sure

but I cant imagine being anything else

though I learn to adapt the the healthy traits of each type to some degree

TZ, yechida or anyone else,
is there a good website that can help with a general introduction and categorization of 'enneagrams'? i am not familiar with it at all

Miriam adahan wrote a book about it.  It's purple i think.  You may be able to get it out of a heimeshe library near you.... or ask your wife to ask a friend for it .

her approach is based on enneagram's?

I don't know about her approach in general.  It's one of those personality type books.  it's a different system than the other one that a lot of ppl are familiar with INTP, ESFJ...  I think she wrote a book about that as well.  I may even have her book at home.  Any trucks available to ship it to you? .  (funny that we use a truck and not a boat to "ship" stuff )I read a lot of that kind of stuff post high school when I was trying to learn about myself.  (I learned more about myself on GYE.)

Here's one site www.enneagraminstitute.com/

thanks for that link

i also read some of Adahan's books when i was younger and i stopped after the 10th (or 13th or something) set of roshei taivos, was getting confusing for me.

free test

www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test.php

drum roll please fjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjf.

I took the test.  Here are the results:




I don't remember what the wing things mean, but I could've told you I was a 5 before taking the test.

Here's the 5 description www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/type5.php

For what it's worth, I tried it too, I came up as a 5 with balanced wings 4 & 6. Sort of makes sense, but a lot of it is so vague that it's easy to make almost anything fit what you want.

here are my results:

You are most likely a type 5.
Taking wings into account, you seem to be a 5w6.

I guess I'm in good company.  Just kidding... I don't need a silly test to tell me that I'm in good company.  The "best" company, in fact.

On that other thingy I'm an INTP.

Any other sikologee tests you'd like me to take?

I guess on the sikologee note.  I was listening to Dr Soroskin again on my way in to work.  He said something in passing that fascinated me.  He said that a lot of hyperactive kids are told that they're lazy.  I'm still pondering the connection, I guess inability to focus on the task at hand.

Well I was am hyperactive and I was told I'm lazy (in not so many words necessarily).  I am able to focus for a long time on things I am interested in... like GYE .

Hi everyone! Miriam adahans book is called awareness but i dont think she's the best bichlal
In her other books i mean
I don'really believe in all the self sikolojee