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Re: A question for anyone who can help 13 Nov 2010 17:44 #84678

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Hello Shuky.  How are you doing?
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Re: A question for anyone who can help 14 Nov 2010 04:42 #84741

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Yeah, vas tootsach?
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."
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Re: A question for anyone who can help 14 Nov 2010 06:14 #84755

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The question you ask has been brought up many, MANY times. My personal thought is that before any other step of teshuva, we need to stop doing the aveirah. That's according to rabbeinu Yonah. And right now, by trying to use a torah mehalech, for most people, certainly delays their "stopping the aveirah (else, they would have already stopped, they wouldn't be on GYE).

So step 1 is to stop poisoning yourself. By any means possible. if you saw someone worshipping avodah zorah, would you be intellectualizing what the best way to stop is, or would you drag him away by any means possible and necessary?
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Re: A question for anyone who can help 14 Nov 2010 16:21 #84793

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dov wrote on 12 Nov 2010 16:08:
The Torah is just fine. We need help and we need it badly.
Chevlei haMoshiach. Birth pangs of Moshiach. Perhaps as in, pains in our private parts. Not just for women anymore.

May some pure Torah shine soon upon ganz Klal Yisroel.
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Re: A question for anyone who can help 15 Nov 2010 23:07 #85021

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Amein!!
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."
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