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Re: My journey 25 Apr 2023 15:40 #394955

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Use the experience to plan for the future. Don’t let the yetzer hara convince you to beat yourself up. You are doing great and you should look forward to continuing with even greater resolve
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some of the experiences I write about may make it easier to identify me.  This is ok.  I trust that if anyone discovers my identity they will keep it to themselves.  If you do realize that you  know me, I am completely comfortable and welcome you acknowledging me and my struggle in person.

Re: My journey 25 Apr 2023 16:16 #394957

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Oish, I feel for you my friend, and I understand  the urge to beat yourself up... but this won't help you get back up, perhaps telling yourself that you will get to beating yourself up in a week from now can help with moving on.

Please keep us updated, wishing you the best.

Re: My journey 25 Apr 2023 17:52 #394959

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Captain wrote on 28 May 2021 13:45:
You have to ask yourself whether you should be defined as the person from 200 days or the person from 1 day. Shake it off buddy! You're doing great. This was a mistake but it doesn't define you.

Make sure to be ready for some stupidity from the yetzer hora, "oh my count will not change anyway so why not do it once more." Don't forget that counting days is just a gimmick but your real goal that's within you is each minute of success!

​Please be mechazek yourself at this vulnerable time and Hashem will surely help. (Please see my signature below for some things that can strengthen you and give you chizuk during this time.)

I think this still applies. And the last few messages in your thread before it from a couple of years ago.
In the place where ba’alei teshuva stand, even pure tzaddikim who never sinned cannot stand. (Rabbi Avohu, Brachos 34b)

Great free resources:
My favorite book for breaking free: The Battle of the Generation 
https://guardyoureyes.com/ebooks/item/the-battle-of-the-generation. Change your attitude and change your life!

Rabbi Shafier's incredible lectures on breaking free: The Fight. Download here: 
https://theshmuz.com/series/the-fight/

If you're only ready to try something small, check out an easier way to do self-talk here:
https://guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-On-the-Way-to-90-Days/378128-Captain—Shtarkemotionals-Secret90Day-Challenge

Re: My journey 25 Apr 2023 17:52 #394960

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DavidT wrote on 26 May 2021 20:54:
It is misguided to think that the entire goal of life is to not mess up. Had that been the case, Hashem would not have bothered to create us, and He definitely wouldn’t have created challenges. Rather, the proper perspective is the positive: that our goal in life is to accomplish, and that self-control is one of the greatest acts we can do. By cashing in on this opportunity, you can become a great person, and having sinned doesn’t take that away. Greatness is in your hands! Remember that not too many people actually resist strong urges just because they know they should. Most people who appear unaffected by desire either don’t face it to a strong extent or actually give in to their desires in private. 

If past sins that we no longer commit still gnaw at our conscience and make us feel down about ourselves, we must do a proper teshuva and move on. We must stop beating ourselves up, even if “that horrific sin” was our fault. Hashem created us knowing that we might make many bad mistakes. That is why He created teshuva. When you do teshuva, He forgives you and no longer holds your sin against you.

After repenting, we must no longer feel inferior for our wrongdoings. Instead, we should be proud that we admitted our mistakes and resolved not to repeat them. We should also take pride in the effort we invested to change despite the difficulty of kicking old habits. Past sins leave over powerful desires, and it takes constant vigilance to control them. This makes the accomplishment even greater.
Source: The Battle of the Generation.
In the place where ba’alei teshuva stand, even pure tzaddikim who never sinned cannot stand. (Rabbi Avohu, Brachos 34b)

Great free resources:
My favorite book for breaking free: The Battle of the Generation 
https://guardyoureyes.com/ebooks/item/the-battle-of-the-generation. Change your attitude and change your life!

Rabbi Shafier's incredible lectures on breaking free: The Fight. Download here: 
https://theshmuz.com/series/the-fight/

If you're only ready to try something small, check out an easier way to do self-talk here:
https://guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-On-the-Way-to-90-Days/378128-Captain—Shtarkemotionals-Secret90Day-Challenge
Last Edit: 25 Apr 2023 17:53 by Captain.

Re: My journey 29 Sep 2023 16:56 #401748

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Hi Guys,

Today and the days to follow are one of those that are very hectic, kids home, wife needing help, (tons), and on top of that I obsses about wanting to be the best father. 
So, I hereby declare, that I will accept whatever comes my way and will try to be mindfull about my feelings/obsessions, and watch not get carried away.

Thanks for listening 

Re: My journey 05 Dec 2023 15:43 #404565

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Hi Guys,

Can anyone share some tips on how they deal with THE obsession's that hijack the mind after seeing some attractive gals.

Thank you,  

Re: My journey 05 Dec 2023 23:35 #404615

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Many great, practical ideas on this site. 
did you read the battle of the Generation? Read on this site about Urge Surfing?

Some ideas,  thank Hashem for the challenge. Pray that Hashem bless her/them with all their needs and success... 

Re: My journey 07 Dec 2023 12:28 #404674

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By praying for her that she have a pleasant day, etc. your brain stops objectifying her. If that doesn't work, imagine tapping her on the shoulder and telling her you appreciate looking at her because it arouses you sexually. After she bites and scratches you and has you arrested, you won't do that again so fast.
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Re: My journey 09 Feb 2024 19:39 #408534

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Hi,



Recently, A thought has been haunting me, and Iam wondering if one can help me out here.

So, here goes. When I was a kid, dont remember the exact age. I had this guy who took me on his lap(in shul), and was tickling me, etc. Now, I don't remember the details,  it seems very vague. But I DO remember that it felt extremely good, and even nowadays when I think abt it, it still feels good.

Now, I never Recieved any love from my father, physically nor emotionally. So my question is: cud it be that I was abused by that guy and I just blocked it out? Or If that happened, Iwouldn't feel good abt it. And the reason I felt/feel good is cuz I got some male love..



Can anyone share their own experience or knowledge on this.



Thanks, 
Last Edit: 09 Feb 2024 19:45 by willdoit.

Re: My journey 09 Feb 2024 20:38 #408536

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willdoit wrote on 09 Feb 2024 19:39:
Hi,



Recently, A thought has been haunting me, and Iam wondering if one can help me out here.

So, here goes. When I was a kid, dont remember the exact age. I had this guy who took me on his lap(in shul), and was tickling me, etc. Now, I don't remember the details,  it seems very vague. But I DO remember that it felt extremely good, and even nowadays when I think abt it, it still feels good.

Now, I never Recieved any love from my father, physically nor emotionally. So my question is: cud it be that I was abused by that guy and I just blocked it out? Or If that happened, Iwouldn't feel good abt it. And the reason I felt/feel good is cuz I got some male love..



Can anyone share their own experience or knowledge on this.



Thanks, 

would be safe to assume, you were abused, (you can feel good about it even if it was abuse)
you may/may not have been affected,
there are many different levels, of abuse, and depends on who, when, were you are/in/@.
may i ask what  ETC. is?
most victims are scared to give out the full story.
#your fellow victim 
Last Edit: 09 Feb 2024 20:43 by cande.

Re: My journey 09 Feb 2024 20:45 #408537

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Etc, was, schmoozing. That's all I can remember 

Re: My journey 09 Feb 2024 20:52 #408538

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willdoit wrote on 09 Feb 2024 20:45:
Etc, was, schmoozing. That's all I can remember 

think harder.
how old was the guy?
how old were you?
was he your brother?
how often?

Re: My journey 09 Feb 2024 20:54 #408539

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I do not know how to give a geder whether or not you were abused, but I don't see a reason to assume you were, based only on what you said. I would just say that often, the difference between an act of love or an act of abuse, is consent. For instance, sex can be an act of love and closeness, but without consent it can be greatly traumatic. Think of it as stealing the person's autonomous ability and choice to love. The abuser has hijacked the person's choice to connect with another, and took it for themselves. An important part of the love between a couple or even friends, is that they choose each other. With that choice removed, the essence of the person is partly gone. 
Someone tickling you can be exhilarating and would often be welcomed from a father, but not from a stranger if you are uncomfortable with it. I remember a much older cousin tickling me at shabbos meals, and when he would come over I would ask him to do it. My experience of it was pleasant and fun, and I chose it. Imagine going on a roller coaster- if you want to, it can be super exciting; if you weren't given a choice it can give you nightmares. I imagine same thing here. It is not necessarily the act itself which is abuse, but the way you feel about it.
I don't know if I am right; this is conjecture. Curious if it resonates.
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Re: My journey 09 Feb 2024 21:09 #408540

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Abusers take advantage of the innocence of children and children may consent to abuse. It may have been his way of deriving sexual pleasure from you. I say may because it depends on the circumstances and what he did. Based on your description it is hard to define whether it was abuse. If you don't know the person today and you don't see any damage or if you do know him but you see nothing wrong in his behavior today your question is for the most part irrelevant.

Re: My journey 09 Feb 2024 21:09 #408541

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richtig wrote on 09 Feb 2024 20:54:
I do not know how to give a geder whether or not you were abused, but I don't see a reason to assume you were, based only on what you said. I would just say that often, the difference between an act of love or an act of abuse, is consent. For instance, sex can be an act of love and closeness, but without consent it can be greatly traumatic. Think of it as stealing the person's autonomous ability and choice to love. The abuser has hijacked the person's choice to connect with another, and took it for themselves. An important part of the love between a couple or even friends, is that they choose each other. With that choice removed, the essence of the person is partly gone. 
Someone tickling you can be exhilarating and would often be welcomed from a father, but not from a stranger if you are uncomfortable with it. I remember a much older cousin tickling me at shabbos meals, and when he would come over I would ask him to do it. My experience of it was pleasant and fun, and I chose it. Imagine going on a roller coaster- if you want to, it can be super exciting; if you weren't given a choice it can give you nightmares. I imagine same thing here. It is not necessarily the act itself which is abuse, but the way you feel about it.
I don't know if I am right; this is conjecture. Curious if it resonates.

you can give consent and still be abused,
im a classic example
#keep loving
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