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caught (catching) in the act... 16 Nov 2017 16:50 #322500

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Just wondering what the oilem would say...
... if you walk in on someone viewing p***, or m'z or worse.  It seems strange to me that I should be the tzadik and do something about it (ie, hypocrite), on the other hand, Iv'e been in his situation, and I wish someone had stopped me then...

(for those who would ask, yes he clearly identifies with the lifestyle that says all shmutz is treif..)
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Re: caught (catching) in the act... 16 Nov 2017 17:03 #322501

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Re: caught (catching) in the act... 16 Nov 2017 17:10 #322502

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These are my thoughts for whatever they're worth:
If i would walk in on someone doing something, i hope i'd be the "tzaddik" in that situation. To counteract your "i'm a hypocrite" remark, you're not a hypocrite but rather someone who has a strong Yetzer Hara for it sometimes you win sometimes you lose. It's like Lashon Hara; while i speak lashon hara sometimes that doesn't mean i don't want to, it means i lose the battle with the Yetzer Hara. When i tell you off for speaking lashon hara, or P***, or something else i'm making sure you understand this is a wrong thing you're doing and know that you're doing it only because you lost the battle with your YH, but next time you should try to win

Re: caught (catching) in the act... 20 Nov 2017 01:06 #322602

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actually the malbim says that there is only a mitzvah of הוכח תוכיח between 2 equals. a tzaddik should not give mussar to a rasha because he will not listen, and a rasha should not give mussar to a tzaddik because its not his place. however 2 equals wherever they are holding will very likely listening to each other.

Re: caught (catching) in the act... 20 Nov 2017 04:03 #322611

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Good question. I think I would put my arm on his shoulder and sit down and have a talk with him. I would like to believe that anyone doing these things would really rather not be doing them and would appreciate a sincere offer to help them break free.
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Re: caught (catching) in the act... 20 Nov 2017 15:12 #322626

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Hashem Help Me wrote on 20 Nov 2017 04:03:
.... I think I would put my arm on his shoulder and sit down and have a talk with him. I would like to believe that anyone doing these things would really rather not be doing them and would appreciate a sincere offer to help them break free.

I don't know why I didn't do that, something in me stopped me from actually going over to him. I thought of it, I cringed at the thought of someone doing that to me and I just cleared my throat loudly.   He didn't get the hint...     


[as a side point, as someone with ssa, I wonder if it would complicate things for me to be open with him while he's clearly lusting and falling.] 
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