IMHO the question is not, "does tikkun haklali work?"

Yes. Tehillim is great. Saying pesukim of t'nach imbues us with holiness whether or not we understand the words.

The question though is, "Should addicts be saying tikkun klali after they have sex with themselves?" "should people who masturbate daily/weekly/whatever say tikkun klali after they have sex with themselves or with some fake image in their mind or on a screen?"

The answer is no (IMHO)

Sure, saying tehillim will raise you up. But if you didn't work to raise yourself up, then whatever spiritual levels you have attained by saying the tikkun will be premature. You might be higher up on the spiritual ladder but you will be on very shaky ground. We all know where that leads to.

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As addicts or extreme users our problem isn't kedusha.

We are ill

Saying tikkun will not make us better.

I would love to hear from an addict who was helped by tikkun klali. Sure after you waste 3 three hours staring at a screen between 2-5 in the morning and you feel bad for yourself, you say some tehillim and you feel better.

There are many addicts who have been clean who never said TK and there are many addicts that are not clean that have. I'm sure that there are addicts that are clean that say TK as well.


Conclusion: I am not suggesting that saying tehillim in general or tikkun klali specifically is a bad thing. I am suggesting that addicts not fool themselves into thinking that this is essential for recovery.

BTW, R' Nachman also says that the best tikkun for such sins is to refrain from doing it again. So if a person was wasting three hours staring at a screen between 2-5 in the morning, he should try sleeping through the night instead. I think that's a tikkun worth trying.

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Machshovo Tova wrote:


In this situation, Ambian^tm would be a better choice than tikkun klali.

I was at the Kever of rabbi Akiva once, and a Breslov guy walks up to the little bimah there, he looks at me and says "if you say tikun klali, its like a BOOM!!!" And so I looked into it and it has helped me a lot, but its not a fix,

I found that every time I prayed to Hashem, He helped me, but not in doing the work for me. He would set things up for me so that I would be forced to put in the work.
For example, the day before my wife caught me I was walking to shul and I started to yell at Hashem, I said "DO SOMETHING! DO SOMETHING NOW! IT'S IN YOUR HANDS TO FIX ME! But he didn't fix me, he set up a situation where my wife would find out what I was doing, because of a stupid mistake (in hindsight not so stupid) I would never make in covering my tracks.

It was a miracle my wife caught me, but I still have to do all the work.

Tikun klali works to set us up to do what we need to do when we could have missed it, we can NEVER get out of doing the work to recover, that would defeat the whole purpose, it would hurt us in the end,
Does Hashem really want to hurt us?!

Obviously everyone has different paths and ways to recovery, this is how I felt prayer worked for me

Also sometimes I feel like I want to just say all of tehillim, but I can't because I don't have the time, so I say these 10 because r' Nachman said that these 10 incorporate the inner essence of the whole tehillim, so for those times we want to just jump into Hashem's arms, we can, even though we only have 6-10 minutes to do so

help613 wrote:


I find the same thing: going to the mikva and saying tikun klali make me feel clean and pure and I don't want to lose that feeling. And since I am clean and pure it is easier to stay clean.
You don't need to be an addict to use this site.

i can only tell you that if this person is clean for a while with just tikun haklali - most probably he is not adicted.

for me it won't work. just like it didn't work in the past 20 years