Mixedup wrote on 11 May 2012 16:39:


So? OK, all may be true and very important...but what are you trying to bring out and clarify, chaver?
All addicts live a double life as a result of their addiction. This is a beautiful post, really. But what is your point in terms of your posts above, and what does it have anything to do with the work suggested to you as a path to real, long-lasting recovery?

First place since I'm mixed up, I'm entitled to jump around :-). Anyway I read a book that says that the first step is to write down what would happen if you were caught? In his words to realize that your a train wreck about to happen. The problem is, that it really made an effect on me until I posted it. Anything I post loses its affect. I don't know why.

Wow. That is a good idea. Never thought of it...but have shared about it at meetings and on the phone many, many times. Powerful. You are right....and also surely entitled to jump around!

Keep right on trucking!

#gye
Dov has written many times in the forum about the "Captain Kirk effect". This means that all addicts live their lives like Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hyde. They live two separate lives and twain shall not meet. This is the way that an addict can continue to live a live that is generally contradictory to how he lives his real life. Dov's opinion is that if a addict is confronted with his other side he will be forced to take his addiction seriously. This is why Dov insistes on using real names and writing all step work with a pen not a computer. The way he sees it these are tools to force the addiction to really see himself in the mirror.
I have realized how much this is true in my case. I have changed names four times in this forum. Anytime I have gotten to know someone in this forum too well I have broken off contact. I haven't told Dov yet who I was on his phone groups. It seems to me that even having even a drop of reality in this virtual world is too much for me. That is the reason why I am always changing names and leaving and coming back. I even erased all threads started by me under previous names. I cannot deal with the reality of any continuity. Every time has too be the first or a new start.

Everywhere you go -- there you are.

[In Mixedup's post above, Dov [b]only [/b] corrected the words "Dr. Spock syndrome", to the "Captain Kirk effect". That's all.]

Hey, whoever you really are (and you know who you are)....BOO!

I know that there is a difference between the two, but it seemed to be somewhat on topic. Mishpacha contained the following vignette

Thank G-d there are still people in positions of real power, who have true seichel. I need to hang around that Rebbe more often.

dov wrote on 03 Jun 2012 17:54:


I'm not sure of your levush, but don't forget to wear the 'shmona begodim' and let down your gekrazelte payos. The Chassidim may not have the Rebbe's tolerance.

MT

For some reason though, there weren't all that many english drashos, so I hear...

The chassidim once cut open the back of the Koritzer's (was it him or was it the Rebbe R' Bunim?) expensive overcoat, because he had no beard and dressed like a goyishe businessman...that was geneivah. The Rebbe told them who he really was inside, and they said, "well, we were trying to help his kedusha come out!"

I fall far short of what I could be in this life every single day and Hashem keeps me around anyhow cuz he loves me and wants me to do whatever He keeps me here for. And hanging around tzaddikim with good seichel helps me - whether they are recognized tzaddikim, or whether they are hidden - even to themselves. I even like hanging around boorish people - if they have good seichel. There is so much I learn from them. It's a rare schoirah and I hunger for it whenever I see it.

The times I actually had to cry on the death of a few gedolim, it was not for their Torah - but for their seichel hayoshor that is the greatest gift Torah can give in this mixed up, crazy world. That is the most painful loss and I feel it in my gut when they leave us.