Yosef Hatzadik wrote on 28 Jun 2011 18:24:


I guess it's back to the canteen plan.

UAJ

Just thinking now, if you fill that canteen with mikva water...........

Yosef
I have ADHD I dont read posts longer then 5 lines (Unless Kedusha writes them and that's for other reasons) But I did skim your post. I saw Mikvah is magic! Hashem is the magician! Mikvah brings dead people back to life (or something like that) And that mikvah works automatically (when you disagreed with Dov).  Then in the end you started putting some quotes that said Mikva isn't a magic eraser like you started off. Or like UAJ and I had written, but you couldn't have meant those because otherwise you would have been agreeing with us and you said you were arguing.

ur-a-jew wrote on 28 Jun 2011 16:56:


I was arguing that Mikva is not worthless even if done WITHOUT Teshuva....

OK I'll speak to UAJ maybe he'll agree that it's not worthless, and that it does bring Kedusha to you.  As long as you agree that if after 120 years you go upstairs and say "Hey I may have masturbated all my life but I went to the mikvah every day without fail" that all the mikvah water in the world will not be enough to put out the fire they have reserved for you!

Me3 wrote on 28 Jun 2011 19:03:


I agree!  ;D


... & send my regards to Ur-a-Jew!!!   

Me3 wrote on 28 Jun 2011 18:44:


LIKE!!! I'm not even sure why -maybe it's the sharfkeit shebo -but I loved that line! (No offense Kedusha!)

Aha! So what do you do with dov's megillahs?

Me3 wrote on 28 Jun 2011 19:03:


I will agree to this much:  Whatever Mikva Me3 drank from last night it definitely put him in top form today.

ben durdayah wrote on 28 Jun 2011 20:45:

ben durdayah wrote on 28 Jun 2011 20:45:

m too!
sometimes i try to force myself to read them if they look interesting

ben durdayah wrote on 28 Jun 2011 20:45:


They are meant to be read??  :o :-\

So here's a question for all the mystics. If someone is tovel with a playboy in his hand, or if he masturbates in the mikvah. Is the mikvah still moisef kedusha?

MEEKVEH EEZ GEVALDIG!

KEEP ON TRUCKING

Welcome back.

Echos of The Rebbe wrote on 29 Jun 2011 00:56:


So is Torah, Tefillah, Teshuva, Shemiras Eiynayim and Working on Your Middos.  I'd venture to say that doing those things will be more helpful in insuring that you keep on trucking, then a rote dunk in the mikvah.

The best place for a Playboy magazine is the mikva because it will get all wet and soggy.
Rebbe Nachman said "Der ershter iz mikva." (Der tzweiter is Tikkun Kloli, of course.) It is so much harder to have any feeling for ruchnius when you are tomei. You are not giving yourself much chance of success if you choose to remain tomei.
If you have gone to the mikva when you are tomei a few thousand times, it is great to go when you are tohor. Try it and see.

ur-a-jew wrote on 28 Jun 2011 16:56:


I just learned the Gemara (Chullin 5) That says we allow "Poshei Yisroel" the sinners of the Jews to bring karbanos (Nedarim & Nedavos) so that perhaps it will inspire them to do Teshuva. Perhaps Mikvah can accomplish a similar inspiration.  I was more then a little dumbfounded to come across this Gemara immediately after having this whole discussion.