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Re: ben nidah 11 May 2011 13:26 #105658

Tzadik90 - you make a great point that shouldn't be lost.  relying on our halachic status to detract ourselves from true repentance, is the sneaky tactic of the Yetzer hara.  There are too many great well known yids - Raish Lakish, R. Akiva, converts, descendants of converts upon whom THE SALVATION OF ALL JEWRY DEPENDS (King David)... if we sit around as Tzadik90 has wisely pointed out, worrying about this and that, distracting ourselves from the true goal of purification of deeds and thoughts, we'll get nowhere CV.  Focus on the cure, not the problem.

Blind Beggar- as a closet Breslover, I'm not familiar with that teaching of Rabbeinu - can you site the reference? Por favor.

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Re: ben nidah 11 May 2011 15:19 #105662

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Blind Beggar wrote on 11 May 2011 10:05:

Rabbi Nachman said that much of a person's yetzer hora is because of the lust that his parents had when they conceived him. And that is talking about the tzaddikim of 18th and 19th century Ukraine. The Yaaros Devash said the reason that Binyomin ben Yaakov never did any aveiro is because he was conceived when Yaakov was older and perfected himself more.


This scares me very very much!

Am I causing my children to have a hard time with their Yetzer Horah by my not perfecting my thoughts?? 



BTW, Sefarim state that on Shabbos Kodesh the above is not applicable.
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Re: ben nidah 11 May 2011 16:02 #105672

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yosef H, shomerbris,

the tanya says (perek 2, end) that our parents only bequeath/create for us a livush for our nishama while they have relations. yet, the nishama itself can be of the highest levels in kdusha.
not only that, the tanya continues that it is entirely probable for davka a guy whose parents are rishaim for their son to receive a very unique and holy nishama. this is bisheim the arizal in taamei hamitzvos. this phinomena is because just like God provides us with what we need, God must also provide the klipos what they need to be evil-so he allows it to be that he sometimes gives a great nishama to a kid who's parents are stinky, so that the kid can use this neshama and abuse its greatness, by going in his parent's ways. The kid, like you shomerbris, or me, it is our job to be defiant to our parents non torah ways and to use that neshama to go to Hashem despite our predicament as having this particular levush or not.

even a ben nidah, whose nefesh may be influenced by the vitality of the 3 klipos tmeos, nonetheless since he is jewish he was still alah bimachshava mamesh shel ratzon haelyon and presumably will still not only have a neshama like other jews but possibly even a neshama gevoha like the arizal says.

so his middos wont be so good. so work on them.
hey, im not a ben nidah and i have bad middos, so i really strike out.

but i'll work on them too, like durdaya said.

shomerbris, you are fortunate to be here at your age, you have life ahead of you yet, even before marriage you have precious time to grow from mussar/therapy.

me, after hurting my wife and others, i am now begining to expose those traits. boruch Hashem.

remember what i said before, two key words: so what

just grow

the whole torah is ahead of you

did you ever pick up a mesilas yisharim and the sefer or bas kol said to you "hey chuck, you are a ben nidah-ben nidas waste their time by learning mussar, just look at **** on your pc instead"
since this never happened, just sit down, apply yourself to alei shor, whatever, and just grow.

remember god made you  for a reason. a great reason. a divine reason.

you are great. believe me. i know alot about my neshama. i know what job im supposed to do. i even know how long i will live, i used to be close with the mikubalei tzaddikim. but for me it wasnt good to know these things-it just stunted my growth. in fact, for a short time i was even convinced i couldnt leanr gemara seriously due to the type of neshama i posess-crazy? now i learn much better.

so just move on and lets discuss pertinent things like shmiras bris!
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Re: ben nidah 11 May 2011 16:08 #105676

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See the Ohr Hachaim Hakodosh on the passuk: Ubas ish kohein ki siyeh l'ish zar.....


(He contradicts this Tanya)
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Re: ben nidah 11 May 2011 17:06 #105695

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tzaddik90/Special Weapons And Tactics wrote on 11 May 2011 16:02:

even a ben nidah, whose nefesh may be influenced by the vitality of the 3 klipos tmeos, nonetheless since he is jewish he was still alah bimachshava mamesh shel ratzon haelyon and presumably will still not only have a neshama like other jews but possibly even a neshama gevoha like the arizal says.


Just wanted to add that apparently -if one was born from such a union -the specific Nachas Ruach that only you are capable of giving to the RBS"O that was oleh beMachshava techilah was davka that you come of such a union.

Like everybody has been commenting here, we all just have to be the best unique person that we are. Things that are beyond our bechirah are G-d's business, the rest is our's.

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Re: ben nidah 13 May 2011 01:48 #105844

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@BlindBeggar

Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for.  Of course I don't to think of my parents like that, but it's the most plausible explanation I've heard so far.

Thanks also to everyone else who posted.  tzadik90, those are very good points.  Hashem declared that I should be a ben nidah.  He has His reasons, although I do not understand them at all.
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Re: ben nidah 13 May 2011 01:51 #105845

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YosefHatzadik wrote:
This scares me very very much!

Am I causing my children to have a hard time with their Yetzer Horah by my not perfecting my thoughts??


Well, what I don't understand is that--isn't it a GOOD thing to have a y"h?  If Binyomin ben Yaakov Avinu didn't have any yetzer hara at all, then how was it possible for him to gain any schar whatsoever?  So he was doing mitzvos all his life--am I correct to say that there wouldn't be any reward for that if there was no resistance (i.e. yetzer hara)?
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Re: ben nidah 13 May 2011 05:49 #105855

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Blind Beggar wrote on 11 May 2011 10:05:

Rabbi Nachman said that much of a person's yetzer hora is because of the lust that his parents had when they conceived him. And that is talking about the tzaddikim of 18th and 19th century Ukraine. The Yaaros Devash said the reason that Binyomin ben Yaakov never did any aveiro is because he was conceived when Yaakov was older and perfected himself more.

So yes, it makes a difference and explains a lot, but Hashem made every one of us the way He wants us to be and put us in the situation He wants us in so that we can serve Him.

Hatzlocho.




ontheedgeman wrote on 11 May 2011 13:26:


Blind Beggar- as a closet Breslover, I'm not familiar with that teaching of Rabbeinu - can you site the reference? Por favor.



It is mentioned in Likutei Moharan 10 and 17.
Se menciona en Likutei Mohar?n 10 y 17.


The Blind Beggar is a character in Rebbe Nachman's story of the Seven Beggars.
If I view a woman as an object, I am powerless over lust, but I don't have to look.
I can guard my eyes.
I want to guard my eyes.
I do guard my eyes.
Why do I say these four lines?
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Re: ben nidah 14 May 2011 19:12 #105927

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Attention all beni niddah and others who got a big yetzer hora from their father. Rabbi Nosson says that if someone honors his father, he raises his father up and removes the yetzer hora that he got from his father.
So, next time you want to call a phone-sex phone line, call your father instead; or if he is no longer alive, learn a mishna for him instead.
The Blind Beggar is a character in Rebbe Nachman's story of the Seven Beggars.
If I view a woman as an object, I am powerless over lust, but I don't have to look.
I can guard my eyes.
I want to guard my eyes.
I do guard my eyes.
Why do I say these four lines?
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Re: ben nidah 15 May 2011 02:22 #105928

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As in 'avos D'Rebbi Noson' ?
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Re: ben nidah 15 May 2011 05:12 #105937

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As in Likutei Halachos, Hilchos Kibud Ov Veaim, by Rabbi Nosson the talmid muvhak of Rabbi Nachman.
The Blind Beggar is a character in Rebbe Nachman's story of the Seven Beggars.
If I view a woman as an object, I am powerless over lust, but I don't have to look.
I can guard my eyes.
I want to guard my eyes.
I do guard my eyes.
Why do I say these four lines?
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Re: ben nidah 15 May 2011 17:55 #105970

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Thnx!
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Re: ben nidah 17 May 2011 10:17 #106139

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serene wrote:
Thnx!

seconded
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Re: ben nidah 17 May 2011 10:41 #106143

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Blind Beggar wrote on 14 May 2011 19:12:

Attention all beni niddah and others who got a big yetzer hora from their father. Rabbi Nosson says that if someone honors his father, he raises his father up and removes the yetzer hora that he got from his father.


How about those with a Jewish mother and non-Jewish father?
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Re: ben nidah 17 May 2011 21:25 #106199

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I am glad you asked. We once had a bochur in yeshiva who had a goy for a father and he was such a sweet, eideler bochur. A talmid chochum asked Rav Yaakov Hillel shlita about him. If the בני תשעה מידות of siman ר"מ have such bad middos then someone with a goy for a father should be much worse. Rabbi Hillel said usually they are. However, sometimes there is a really special neshomo that needs to come down to this world and the Soton tries very hard to stop it. Every couple who are fit to have such a child are disqualified by the accusations of the Soton. So Hashem waits for some goy to live with his Jewish wife. The Soton does not pay them any attention to them and Hashem gives them the neshomo for their baby when the Soton is not looking.


I heard this from the talmid chochom myself.
The Blind Beggar is a character in Rebbe Nachman's story of the Seven Beggars.
If I view a woman as an object, I am powerless over lust, but I don't have to look.
I can guard my eyes.
I want to guard my eyes.
I do guard my eyes.
Why do I say these four lines?
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