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23 Dec 2020 06:39

Shtarkandemotional

Something to remember about yourself... is that... your struggle doesn’t put you lower as a person... your still the same great rebbe! I find the yetzer hara attacks the best and most special unique people with great talents... I’ve been officially the shtarkest guy in my yeshiva and now not so much anymore haha lol! But I’m really looked up at... and NO ONE WOULD DREAMMMMMMMMM that I’m struggling with these inyanim... Our struggles don’t define us... they build us!!! We become stronger people! Stronger worriers of hashem!!! 
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23 Dec 2020 06:34

Shtarkandemotional

NotGivingUp613 wrote on 23 Dec 2020 06:30:
Hey thanks for listening. The reason I think marriage doesn’t change the problem is because like all addictions it becomes part of your life. After doing something for so long and we’re talking 15-20 years long, you can’t just get up and say ok I’m done. This becomes your life and Unfortunately nothing will stop this drug without the proper help and guidance. We can kid ourselves and say I’m not really addicted and I’ll stop at any moment but when it comes down to it, we all know we can’t just stop.

Wow true:( sad... 
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23 Dec 2020 06:30

NotGivingUp613

Hey thanks for listening. The reason I think marriage doesn’t change the problem is because like all addictions it becomes part of your life. After doing something for so long and we’re talking 15-20 years long, you can’t just get up and say ok I’m done. This becomes your life and Unfortunately nothing will stop this drug without the proper help and guidance. We can kid ourselves and say I’m not really addicted and I’ll stop at any moment but when it comes down to it, we all know we can’t just stop.
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23 Dec 2020 06:29

Shtarkandemotional

NotGivingUp613 wrote on 23 Dec 2020 06:25:
I really appreciate the chizuk, I will hopefully be doing a lot more research on this site and b”h will grow tremendously from everyone.
I will definitely check out your forum. Thank you and HaShem should protect all of us

Always remember we’re here for you!! As a family as ONE!! 
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23 Dec 2020 06:25

NotGivingUp613

I really appreciate the chizuk, I will hopefully be doing a lot more research on this site and b”h will grow tremendously from everyone.
I will definitely check out your forum. Thank you and HaShem should protect all of us
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23 Dec 2020 06:21

Shtarkandemotional

Hey, it’s shtarkandemotional here!! We are listening we’re all one big family here for YOU!!! Keep posting!!! Happy for you that your wife took it well that’s a big plus! Yea, we all blame our nisyonos on stuff like for ex. We’re not married etc ... but the truth is it’s us within...can I ask why doesn’t it help when we get married? I’m not married yet so I wouldn’t know... just wondering... anyway we’re here for you!! Keep posting and honestly it’s hard to open up about this struggle we all know that!! So really you deserve a mazel tov! Hopefully this next step will be the turning point for you!!! 
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23 Dec 2020 06:20

90dys

NotGivingUp,

You are one of us....I promise you that we will hold your hand the whole way!

And kudos to your wife for her strength! 

You will be blown away by the love and knowledge that exists on this forum. And BEZ"H you will change if you use it for support and accountability. Perhaps you will find chizuk by my thread which details part of my journey.

guardyoureyes.com/forum/19-Introduce-Yourself/356161-Intro

Stay strong dear brother!

90dys
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23 Dec 2020 06:06

NotGivingUp613

Hi, I’ve been a member for a while but never had the guts to actually post or speak to anyone on the site. Actually I’ve never spoken to anyone in my entire life about my porn addiction. I’m married with 3 kids and learnt in kollel for 7 years. Like many I always assumed over time this will just “go away” or marriage would fix the problem, or having kids would fix the problem, or becoming a rebbi would fix the problem. But guess what it didn’t Long story short I hit pretty hard recently and finally spoke to my rav who sent me to a therapist who will guide on me on the next stages in life. I even told my wife(literally 5 hours ago)  about my addiction who actually took it unbelievably well since she always had a feeling I was watching porn and finally happy I’m open with her. 
Anyway sorry for the long post but like I said this is literally the first time in my life doing this. I have no idea how this works or if anyone will even see this but I guess it feels good to open up. Thanks for listening
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22 Dec 2020 08:53

YeshivaGuy

22 Dec 2020 01:08

OivedElokim

This addiction thrives on shame and isolation. Don’t “spare us” from hearing about your struggles. That’s what we’re all here for. You won’t be judged, you will be helped and supported. The more openly and honestly you face this issue, the quicker and easier you will overcome it.
20 Dec 2020 17:31

YeshivaGuy

Zedj wrote on 20 Dec 2020 07:23:


A GYE memeber messaged me privately telling me to attend SA meetings. He claims that the pattern he sees here in my thread is of an addict and nothing is really gonna help me beside meetings.



As the others responded, you should get in contact with a veteran gye member or the professionals on gye.

Agreed. HHE, Dov etc are some of many options
20 Dec 2020 07:23

Zedj

A GYE memeber messaged me privately telling me to attend SA meetings. He claims that the pattern he sees here in my thread is of an addict and nothing is really gonna help me beside meetings.



As the others responded, you should get in contact with a veteran gye member or the professionals on gye.
20 Dec 2020 07:14

Zedj

Zedj wrote on 17 Dec 2020 03:47:
When you you get out of this mess, you will be a better therapist. You will understand the sacrifice your clients take upon themselves on a daily basis.


Question for the therapist:
I once heard from a a known speaker-sombody asked him "do you believe everything you say" he replied "if I repeated everything I believe, I wouldn't say anything"

Do you believe the advice you give a client is true and works?

It mind sound stupid but this is what I'm wondering.
Is that maybe the reason you are hesitant to go to therapy yourself?
Or maybe you are like me, petrified of the unknown and just can't bring yourself to speak to someone to admit you have a problem?

Speaking to someone lightened the load tremendously.
At your your own time, when you are ready, call someone or speak to someone you can trust. The sooner the better.
You will be playing 4d chess while your opponent is playing checkers



I thought I responded and it disappeared!

I think your points are both accurate.

I do believe that I help people, but I focus on practical change and I see the results. Unfortunately, I don't believe that the average therapist is a magic pill especially when it comes to more complex and unclear struggles. Dealing with phobias or general anxiety is one thing, dealing with something more encompassing like depression that doesn't seem to have a clear root or an addiction that doesn't either is a different ball game. This doesn't mean that I believe therapy wont be good for me - I think it would be very beneficial. I am wary of the idea that it will be some magic pill though.

The main struggle though is simply facing someone and coming out with it. I've spent years in therapy and only mentioned the very basic idea of addiction once. Even posting here is a big step, but I hope it will be a step that leads to getting to a point where I am able to have that conversation with a therapist.



A gut voch W.G.T.H!

interesting answers!
I think I made you think! 

I don't think anyone is looking for a magic pill. If there was, then we all would take it in a blink of an eye.
I for one would not be here.

We are battling and fighting with an inner struggle constantly.
As you know there are many ways to relieve and help with this specific struggle.

From my personal experience: I realized a couple of years ago that I have a problem, I knew it in my gut. Addiction I don't know but still an issue.
(Realizing I have an issue)

I don't know at what point I can say I eccepted myself (I may have said something earlier about this)
Was it before I called and reached out? Maybe it was once I actually called?
(eccepting myself..) took me too long to reach out for help.

It could very well be, the eccepting of yourself will probably be commuted when you make the phone call or speak to someone. (Of course when you are ready to make that step.)

As a therapist, you see people talk about their issues and vulnerabilities, it's not easy to do, it's extremely raw and painful sometimes ( for me it's so hard) but it's the only way I see myself getting out of this pit I created for myself.

I was, am and still vulnerable.
I think that being vulnerable is necessary and needed to be helped.

I'm not a great writer or communicator but I think you understand.

Wishing you the best and hatzlocha!

Ps
I think having a series will help alot on the forums.
Looking forward!

20 Dec 2020 05:08

yuyu

A GYE memeber messaged me privately telling me to attend SA meetings. He claims that the pattern he sees here in my thread is of an addict and nothing is really gonna help me beside meetings. 



What’s your take about it? 
20 Dec 2020 03:36

withgdthereshope

We often ruminate on these things and generally it isn't helpful as Dov wrote, but imagine we actually had clarity and then were able to overcome that uncomfortably that causes us to escape into our addiction. What would that do for us? How helpful would it be?
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