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Debating 21 Mar 2024 00:16 #410492

I've been masturbating and lusting for several years and things are getting worse and more intense, but I keep struggling with really being honest that this is getting worse etc. but I don't really want to continue either, any advise how to make the program work?

Re: Debating 21 Mar 2024 00:19 #410493

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Work it step by step and don’t rush the process 
I will give battle Sir- General George Meade (Army of the Potomac)
Nuts!- General Anthony McAuliffe (101st Airborne)
Lets Get Dangerous! - Darkwing Duck
You’ll need to raise the ante and negotiate- Rechnitzer Rejects
I'm fresh out of essential truths- Spock
Life is a hell of a thing to happen to a person - David Rossi

Re: Debating 21 Mar 2024 00:23 #410494

But don't you need it already by step 1?

Re: Debating 21 Mar 2024 00:37 #410498

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As far as I can tell the process starts with step 1 
I will give battle Sir- General George Meade (Army of the Potomac)
Nuts!- General Anthony McAuliffe (101st Airborne)
Lets Get Dangerous! - Darkwing Duck
You’ll need to raise the ante and negotiate- Rechnitzer Rejects
I'm fresh out of essential truths- Spock
Life is a hell of a thing to happen to a person - David Rossi

Re: Debating 21 Mar 2024 01:56 #410501

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Maybe share some un-identifying history so the oilam can respond.
Feel free to contact me at michelgelner@gmail.com

My threads: Lessons Learned: guardyoureyes.com/forum/20-Important-Threads/335248-Lessons-Learned

                    My Story and G-d Bless GYE: guardyoureyes.com/forum/17-Balei-Battims-Forum/303036-My-story-and-G-d-bless-GYE

Re: Debating 21 Mar 2024 02:33 #410503

I'm holding now where I'm turning to porn more often and I feel myself losing interest in trying to fight it instead I'm more and more allowing porn to take my mind over

Re: Debating 21 Mar 2024 14:48 #410528

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Did you do the "Your desire for change" section of the Flight to Freedom program?

Re: Debating 22 Mar 2024 04:07 #410594

I don't think so. But is the flight to freedom also for addicts or just for non addicts?

Re: Debating 22 Mar 2024 05:11 #410595

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The F2F program rewires the brain for most people. Someone who is a real addict might sometimes need the 12 steps program but what makes you say that you are a real addict? I tried stopping for 3 decades without success before joining GYE and taking the F2F program. I had zero control over my desires and I was sure that it was an addiction but in the end I wasn't a real addict. I took the program and became a free man. For most people the F2F program, the book The Battle of the Generation, the forum and reaching out to friends is enough to break free. If you haven't tried all of these with determination for a longer period of time I don't know whether you should jump to the next level of the 12 steps program. Breaking free is a process and it takes time, but if you do everything I mentioned you will probably break free. Here is the link to the ebook: https://guardyoureyes.com/ebooks/item/the-battle-of-the-generation

I suggest that you reach out to the main mentor, Hashem Help Me, at michelgelner@gmail.com and discuss your plan with him. He has helped many people including myself and you won't regret it.

Keep us posted on how it goes. Keep on posting and sharing and make friends. Rooting for you.
Last Edit: 22 Mar 2024 05:39 by yitzchokm.

Re: Debating 24 Mar 2024 04:57 #410633

I sent a message to the text guy, and he gave me a list of questions to determine if I'm a addict and I checked out with almost all of them, so he recommended looking into 12 step program, so that's why I'm wondering if also F2F will help me

Re: Debating 29 Mar 2024 12:14 #410934

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Definitely not in place of the 12 steps program.

Re: Debating 31 Mar 2024 18:59 #411043

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Even if you are going to do the 12 steps I think that you will still benefit a lot from The Battle of the Generation.

Re: Debating 31 Mar 2024 19:02 #411044

Ok, I'll check out. Thank you!

Re: Debating 01 Apr 2024 21:20 #411098

Does anyone have a copy of the white book in pdf form?

Re: Debating 15 Apr 2024 01:56 #411815

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I do.
You can reach me at gyehelp2017@gmail.com


Just to mention, I've been in SA for close to 5 years now. And it has been a life saver for 'me'. 
Last Edit: 15 Apr 2024 01:58 by gyehelp2017.
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