so one of the things i really need to work on is being less concerned and focused about me, me, me, ME!!...i know all the hardcore sa-ers talk about how the addiction breeds on selfishness and being a budding sa-er i guess i need to take that seriously...i dont feel like i expect much from other people...id rather everyone just leave me alone...still, i feel like maybe that feeling of wnting to be left alone by the whole world is a sort of selfishness in itself...so where to start on becoming less selfish???

Rage:
I want to answer your quetion

I will ask you to keep an open mind

It is either just as flakey or less flakey than SA

Here goes:

A great way to become less self centered

Join a chassidishe shteeble

What bards you are kookey and you have your personal agenda

Rage I asked you to keep an open mind!

Chassidus is based on a few factors
One of them is being part of a group that works together on a common goal which is to serve Hashem thru happiness and get emotionally connected to G-d

It is almost in every group f chssidim that the group has its allegiance to a Rebbe

The chassidim accept him as their common   leader that they all feel an affinitty and a subserviance to

That creates brotherhood and common good will within this close knit group

Because the group shares common values and each one feels like family they coose to give of their time energy talents and of course food and drinks (usually alcoholic) with anothewr

All this is to set the stage and foster an eviroment where they can collectively serve good thru elevated emotion and in a happy state of mind in order to reach greater planes of serving Hashem

While being part of a group one acts selfless for we is on the constant lookout on how he can help his comrade
From a cup of coffe to a wise piece of advice to a few bucks in his fellow mans pocket

Also time is to be spent in a common house called a shteeble where the chassidim spend in formal prayer and in informal meals dancing talmud sessions and immersing in the mikveh

A chassid really gives from himself and the result is an elevated selfless jew

Yea there are many myths and stereotypes and it seems from the outside that the group is backward weird and un-intelligent

This is the furthest from the truth

Bards

still remain the quazi hareidi punk rockin far left liberal kahanist you all know and hate

guardureyes wrote on 19 Apr 2010 19:33:


i can definately do breslov...whats not to love? music, vodka, 420, and Woodstock in the ukraine once a year...where do i sign up??

Rage and yosef

Please let's keep this conversation in perspective

I wanted to only say a way to be selfless in a fun and in a program is chassidus

I didn't say which chassidus I only said a shteeble is a good program

There are many ways to be selfless

It can be your shul your kids school

It can a should be in your own home.

still remain the quazi hareidi punk rockin far left liberal kahanist you all know and hate

You guys are all a bunch of fruitcakes.

I love you.