gma316 wrote on 17 Jul 2009 13:08:
I am writing now what may be my final post as I feel I do not deserve to be associated with such tzadkim. I want the wall of honor so badly but I can not keep up my streaks as I have given into addiction for lust 2 times since I was added I aNt
ore than anything to be am to win my milchama but I am out matched I will continue to fight but I to ashamed of my self to having my ne added to the wall even though I strove for that accomplishment thank you all for all your help. :'(
Dear GMA -
What I am about to write I have written before, but spelling it out gets too many members upset, so I try not to. But as you are apparently at wits-end and figuring you "lost", here goes:
My own experience and opinion - I am not speaking for Hashem and His Torah as an authority (but is that what you need? an authority...or a fellow addict?) - normal morality
and the common rules/ideals of normal yiddishkeit are trying to use
on your problem are primarily made for
normal people and normal misuse of this part of you/your body. Words like "I
fell", "yetzer hara", etc. are
sometimes code-words for an addict who is living in a fantasy-land of morality, in my experience. No wonder you are not succeeding. Addicts are not normal and need a different approach to "win". By
definition, an addict is a
loser (by their own power) when it comes to their addiction. Please stop referring to a bunch of folks who depend on Hashem to keep them from using their drug of choice as "tzaddikim". At least do not include me in the ranks of tzaddikim. With respect to this issue I am nothing more than a
complete loser against lust who finally realized that the 12 steps/12 step followships are
meant specifically for ME - who else? For people who
can control their drug of choice? What would
they need
help for? NO, no, no. The steps are made specifically for people who lost - on the condition thatthey recognize they are a total failure
at this business and need to
finally really relate and depend totally on Hashem. The steps will help you learn how to
do that, because you can't figure it out on your own. Yo'd be just turning back to the infected understanding of Torah you developed while you were learning how to act out. No?
In my opinion, you need to decide if you are an addict or just choteh. Has this problem made your life unmanageable? Is it progressing?
Can you control and enjoy (use) lust (independent of whether it is right or wrong or Hashem's Will - this is about the way YOU ARE, not at all about the way you SHOULD be)... Do you get me. If anyone thinks what I have written is evil, or just plain dumb, I ask you what more you have to say to someone in this state than chizzuk? If he leaves, as Noorah seemed to be writing, he really doesn't leave, he will just carry himself with him. Sometimes, we need to first learn how to live with our REAL selves, rather than be
told by true tzaddikim what our REAL selves
are.