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Re: My journy 25 Nov 2012 17:05 #148485

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Some Guy,

Dov is a bazillion percent correct here.

An "aliyah l'tzorech yeridah" is one of the worst things in the world because you are convinced that you are doing the right thing when you are actually setting yourself up for failure again.

After a fall you can't just say, "I'll try harder". You need to specify what you will do to make sure that type of mistake doesn't happen again. If you are serious about dealing with your illness, you need to do something not just feel something.

Re: My journy 25 Nov 2012 17:06 #148486

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Dov, well written well said!!

Yitzchok
The opposite of addiction is not sobriety, it’s connection

Re: My journy 25 Nov 2012 17:22 #148487

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Some_guy,

Once you wrote that you became frum even though your family did not. If you had to write a paragraph to inspire another guy with your same background to do the same, what would you write?

Re: My journy 25 Nov 2012 19:24 #148492

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Today is day 3.

Dear nederman,
The advantages of being frum are not tangable. They are not even logical. They are spiritual. Now, how does one prove a such a thing. Simply go to a rabbi's Sabbat dinner. It seems like a normal dinner with chicken and soup, but something is diffrent. It is hard to summarize the feeling that the room is full of. The warmth that fills every act and everything with signifagence and awe. This felling, this warmth, is love. The true love that comes from loving G-d and your neighbor more than yourself. That is why I am frum. I want my children and my children's children to feel this love in their every day life.
Sincerly, Elias
My Rabbi always gives me the same advice. "Be happy. The world is good. Just be happy."

Re: My journy 25 Nov 2012 21:10 #148498

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Sweet. Wow. I can't think of a better way to say what it's all about. Thanks, Elias.
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."

Re: My journy 25 Nov 2012 21:19 #148499

  • nederman
some_guy wrote on 25 Nov 2012 19:24:

Today is day 3.

Dear nederman,
The advantages of being frum are not tangable. They are not even logical. They are spiritual. Now, how does one prove a such a thing. Simply go to a rabbi's Sabbat dinner. It seems like a normal dinner with chicken and soup, but something is diffrent. It is hard to summarize the feeling that the room is full of. The warmth that fills every act and everything with signifagence and awe. This felling, this warmth, is love. The true love that comes from loving G-d and your neighbor more than yourself. That is why I am frum. I want my children and my children's children to feel this love in their every day life.
Sincerly, Elias


Great. Look at your pros and cons then. Is this enough for you to show up at an SA meeting or to remind yourself that you have a choice not to lust?

Advantages and disadvantages of acting out:

Advantages:

  1. Acting out makes my tension go away.

  2. Acting out makes it easy for me to fall asleep.

  3. It feels really good.



Disadvantages:

  1. Acting out makes me depressed because I am perfectionist and when I act out I tell myself that I am imperfect. It takes me days to get back on track.

  2. I tend to label myself as a hypocrite. I cannot even pray for forgivness afterwords.

  3. I have to use my family's computer and I feel fear because I could get caught.

  4. I am making it difficult to see my future wife as more than an object.

  5. The advantages of being frum are not tangable. They are not even logical. They are spiritual. Now, how does one prove a such a thing. Simply go to a rabbi's Sabbat dinner. It seems like a normal dinner with chicken and soup, but something is different. It is hard to summarize the feeling that the room is full of. The warmth that fills every act and everything with signifgance and awe. This felling, this warmth, is love. The true love that comes from loving G-d and your neighbor more than yourself. That is why I am frum. I want my children and my children's children to feel this love in their every day life. Acting out will destroy that dream.



Re: My journy 27 Nov 2012 21:24 #148598

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Today is day 2.
My Rabbi always gives me the same advice. "Be happy. The world is good. Just be happy."

Re: My journy 28 Nov 2012 20:49 #148631

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Today is day 3.
My Rabbi always gives me the same advice. "Be happy. The world is good. Just be happy."

Re: My journy 29 Nov 2012 21:34 #148688

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Today is day 4. I feel so excited! It did not seem as hard to get past day 3 this time. I am kind of worried that I am about to have a sudden lust attack soon. It has just seemed too easy.
My Rabbi always gives me the same advice. "Be happy. The world is good. Just be happy."

Re: My journy 29 Nov 2012 23:50 #148692

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Dont be afraid. You have the tools...

I know you can do it!

BeSiata Dishmaya!

Re: My journy 30 Nov 2012 15:44 #148730

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If you are just sitting there and waiting not to lust...or to lust....then you are a sitting duck. The freebies you get will slip away as easily as they came, and you would really be right: it's too easy.

I again suggest you work some sort of program and get some sort of real help. Try something - anything that you feel has real evidence of success. Chotch something (maybe u only speak yeshivish ).

Have a sweet Shabbos!
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."

Re: My journy 02 Dec 2012 00:35 #148778

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Today is day 5. I had some touble today, but I didn't fall! I feel so proud of myself for going this long.
My Rabbi always gives me the same advice. "Be happy. The world is good. Just be happy."

Re: My journy 02 Dec 2012 20:26 #148806

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It is certainly a big brocha!
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."

Re: My journy 03 Dec 2012 15:09 #148838

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Today is going to be day one.
My Rabbi always gives me the same advice. "Be happy. The world is good. Just be happy."

Re: My journy 03 Dec 2012 15:16 #148842

Day one is the biggest brocha we can achieve. What can be better than a clean day? May we merit to continuously have this brocha.

Hatzlacha

MT
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