thanks for the info, cause hashem & me need separate 12 steps to make things good again.....
lets first finish with this porn on the eazy way; still a chazer still a sheigetz but no porn.

by the way im not so sure dov agrees with u BD
I hope he does

laagvokeles wrote on 28 Jun 2011 22:27:


Laag, I am sure that Dov definitely disagrees with you.

dov wrote on 31 May 2011 20:20:

ur-a-jew wrote on 28 Jun 2011 22:36:

amen to that!

but i do wanna change im doing 12 steps now!

+1

When the heart and mind are not involved, the actions of the limbs become meaningless - incomplete emunah.  And if the intentions and the actions are not equal in piety, then we're simply showing off.

BTW, Laag, from the few pages I read in this thread, it seems like you don't really want to give up The Habit.  Is this a correct assumption?

no

laagvokeles wrote on 29 Jun 2011 19:43:


So then are you somehow trying to strike a middle ground...?  I just want to know so I can help better.

Hey! Am I the only one who has noticed that laag has become a "Hero Member" with 500 posts on the site?

gggggggg lol

:D

SHTICK VOODFORD GEVCLDIG

ben durdayah wrote on 29 Jun 2011 21:35:


I think ROTFL is more like it.

Ad mosai yihyeh zeh lanu lemokeish? Shalach es ha'emess mipumaichi veyachogu laShem! Once we freely give out the truth about ourselves we have a chance to start getting free from the sivlos mitzrayim of our slavery! You know it is a slavery, no?
When are you sharing your story with someone already?

Onoh eileich meiruchecho - v'onoh miponecha evrach? We tried so hard to escape from You Tatty! We ran to sweet porn and hid with it from others and from You, while you watched us do it. We hid under the blankets and in the bathrooms and had sex with ourselves. We ran from You only because we did not know how to connect with You, and because we had no faith that You had anything that could ever compare with what we could do for ourselves using our fantasy and our eiver. We thought we had to take care of everything for ourselves, or else life would be garbage. We didn't know that You had everything taken care of!
We forgot that "li hakesef v'li hazohov" was not just talking about money!

[i]To'isi k'seh oveid - bakesh avdecha ki mitzvosecha lo shochochti[/i]! OK...so maybe we did forget. But we will remember them if you open our ears so we can hear again! Help us really say Sh'ma today, so we hear and remember again just for hayom al levovecha - only today. One day at a time.

Nu, when are you gonna share your story already? PM somebody about it. Stop 'dancing' and 'go' already! 

dov! u must be doing tonns of money and you are very busey! cause i sended u 3 pm saying that i want to make u deaf with my story עיין שם
please!

Laag when your two weeks of no movies are up:

guardureyes wrote on 01 Jul 2011 15:41:


Have a wonderful Shabbos.

Dov you are really special! Its interesting but you are a working man and I am a koilel guy, but believe me you live with hashem much more than many ppl who learn in koilel for years!
I learnt from you a lot, but I wanna talk to you about what I understood from between your words, and it disturbs me a lot wich is; this rehab of lust is not a monkey business  it’s a lot of work, and I am gonna have to do it…. In other words the right solution would just be castration… but we are trying to avoid it… but you got to reap your self apart to succeed in this.
I also understood from you that the all gye is only to 1 teach us who is our enemy, teach us a few tactics how to fight this war, but in the end of the day we gotta fight it, and its extremely hard.
I know there is a lot of ppl who succeed, and I wanna belong to them, but I am very frustrated because I didn’t heat the bottom yet, I just know its very wrong, and I know that I am loosing a lot of quality in life in my marriage and with my kids because of this lust, but frankly I was really expecting for a solution less painful.
Hakitzer dov, tell me there is no magic? Because I also understood form you that the all sa meetings are not the real solution, they are just 1) to make sure we don’t lie to our self, and with questions been asked there etc, they help you to know your self better 2) ppl sometimes don’t believe its possible to change, so over there u see how ppl got out of worse situations. I think I am very honest in this issue and I think I know its possible to get heald.
I just am very lost dov, very very lost, its frightening! Because I get such weird ataks some times! I just feel like the only way to calm down my body is by giving him masturbation.
But this is only  ( I REALLY HOPE SO) because I watch movies and they all trigger the hell out of me. But then to give up movies? I feel so stupid dov, I feel like I am upsetting you with my silly proclamations, but what should I do? I should suddenly just be bored and not have nothing what to do?

dov where are you!!!?

I don't know where dov is.

Or anyone else for that matter.

I guess all those Americans are busy with the 4th of July.

How are you laag?

E