What we really want out of this life will in the end be made clear by one thing, and it never lies: Our actions. There is no such thing as a victim. Not even La'ag.

Is our greatest desire that everything be made easy and we take our comfort as the one basic necessity in this life? Or satisfaction even without comfort? Or do we put ourselves into being good - and trust in Hashem to make it best for us in the end even though it hurts a lot on the way?

R' La'ag started out his thread saying, "We all want to be good". If he chooses comfort - meaning to only associate with the people he wants to associate with, and only do the things he wants to do to get better, but never go out of his comfort zone...well, then he should rename his thread its true name:

"We all like to be good...but we need to be comfortable"

Boy, what conditions you set on your recovery and health! Everything is bound in a 'condition' of some sort: This I cannot do, this is not good enough, this disgusts me, this is stupid.

Too bad.

laagvokeles wrote on 03 Jun 2011 16:25:


Listen, you seem far enough gone that you need the medicine you aren't willing to take. But there are approaches that do not require group meetings. At least try one of those (you can ask me for more details) or I will be pretty sure you don't want to change

is that a threat?

by the way is it a mitzva of סיפור יציאת מצרים that u need a question for u to answer?
you know something say it
ill apriciate it.
hashem will

See this:

www.guardureyes.com/GUE/PDFs/ebooks/Reah%20Chaim.pdf

The main relevant "system" starts at page 11, but its worth (IMHO) reading the whole thing.

A specific person to report back to with your successes and failures greatly enhances the effectiveness of the system.

laagvokeles wrote on 05 Jun 2011 15:48:


You want him to blunt your teeth, and tell you that as things are at the moment, he but not you would be accepted into SA?

Tell you about the Erev Rav who preferred the comfort of Mitzrayim and did not want to leave?

there is such thing not to be accepted?

now i understood u...

laagvokeles wrote on 05 Jun 2011 15:57:


Well.  You cannot start the steps until you actually stop and want to stay stopped.

If you're not serious about stopping...  it isn't there for your comfort

Such is my understanding.

Oh, as for the Chazaka that you established...  I'd love to hear your word of the day.  Alternatively, you could answer a question - why do men wash Mayim achronim, but not women?  Surely the documented reason of "salt on the fingers" applies to both?  And women have to wash before bread.  And women have the halacha of bentching, even a short version...

Why does the sheano yodaya leshol get the same answer as the rosha because if he sees everything going on at the seder and doesn't have the sense to ask, something is wrong. Vhamaven yoven.

jester i dont know

laagvokeles wrote on 05 Jun 2011 17:35:


In that case, you will need to tell me something that you do know   What is today's shiur?

laagvokeles wrote on 05 Jun 2011 17:35:


come on mercy

laagvokeles wrote on 05 Jun 2011 17:52:


Yes - plenty

Come on - it takes you almost no effort to tell me something that you learned today, and it gives me a great buzz.  Be nice to me!

laagvokeles wrote on 02 Jun 2011 16:54: