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Re: we all want to be good 03 Jun 2011 14:10 #107919

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Re: we all want to be good 03 Jun 2011 15:27 #107931

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You have a lot of faulty assumptions this morning.

First, every baal habus knows that the fact that on our calendar Shavous falls out on the sixth of Sivan does not mean that Shavous is the sixth. It could be the 5th, 6th or 7th. See Rosh Hashana 6b and Minchas Chinuch 308.  f you want to impress us then tells us pshat in the Chinuch.

Second, why do you assume you've done teshuva on kaas or loshon hora even once let alone a million times. Teshuva is more than to klap al cheit and say "Oy RBSO I'm sorry."  I suggest you read Perek Gimmel of Chovos Halevovos Shaar Hateshuva well and in particular number seven. Keroo Levovchem requires the recognition and the acceptance that its going to hurt to change they way I've been thinking and acting until know. I've looked at porn all my life, I've enjoyed it, it's my "Joy" as you like to say and now I'm going to stop doing it. That hurts a lot. But I'm going to stop anyways. And I've taken steps to enable myself to make that stop. Its re-evaluating your whole outlook on life and who you are.  Just throwing out the USB or ripping wires from the wall doesn't do that because nothing has changed inside you.  Forget about a million times, have you done it once. 

Maybe your thinking, give me a break that's impossible, that can't be done.  But you're mistaken, it can.  You don't have to go to a live SA meeting, but if you did you would see that its been done by people with far less kochos then you.  But it all started because they recognized they couldn't do it alone.

And please, you're a big boy, you're not a sissy, so leave the stupid LOL and ggggg out and think honestly and seriously about what Dov said, what Jester said and what everyone else on this thread has said.  A gutten chodesh and hatzlacha.
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Re: we all want to be good 03 Jun 2011 15:43 #107934

  • laagvokeles
this is crazy u pulling me in in to torah here??? no freaking way!!!!! hello this is porn cure remember???
well, ill only answer u to make a point, but no more. i prefer to have usefull discussions here, like the one thing im gonna wright to u soon, but first just for one last time, even its no funn (jester forget it, no more!)

shavuot is on the 50th day of sefira, machloket 6 or 7 nitno tora, so we have all the numbers why kidush hachodesh.
ill answer it now, and jester i §$%" promis u this is the last biblical statemement from me here.

matan tora nothing to do with shavuot, so we could finish 50 days and not fall on shavuot...


now about what matters.
דריי נישט מיין קאפ.
i dont know why by u to know what teshuva is , is such big chidush, by me it isnt. i did tshuva, and finish. i have to bring down here the all chovat halevavot?
please
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Re: we all want to be good 03 Jun 2011 15:59 #107939

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laagvokeles wrote on 03 Jun 2011 15:43:
this is crazy u pulling me in in to torah here??? no freaking way!!!!! hello this is porn cure remember???


Who needs porn cure, you've done teshuva already.

Now back to Torah.  What are you talking about?

You suggested earlier that we don't need to be mekadash Sivan since anyway's Shavuos is on the sixth of sivan so Rosh Chodesh is six days before Shavuos.  As the Minchas Chinuch points out, however, 

א״כ בזמן הראי׳ אינו תלוי
חג הזה בימי החודש רק חמשיס לספירה ופעמים בחמשה ופעמים בששה ופעמים
בשבעה ולמה כ׳ הרהמ״ח ושינה בזה דהוא ששה בסיון אף דלפי החשבון שלנו
הוא כן מ״מ מצות התורה אינו כן רק החג הזה הוא תלוי במנין הספירה
וכשיחזור הב״ד בב״א ונקדש עפ״י הראיה יהי׳ החג הזה בא׳ מג׳ ימים הנ״ל
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Re: we all want to be good 03 Jun 2011 16:08 #107947

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i dont know what u want not on torah not on teshuvah
dont explain the torah (if youll read what i wrote u see that i said what u quoted)
live it out of here

how many times do i have to tell u THAT IM NOT DOING TESHUVA NOW? IM WASTING MY ENERGY ON ANSWERING GHOSTS QUESTIONS
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Re: we all want to be good 03 Jun 2011 16:10 #107949

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Now you know what it's like to talk to a deaf man.

Congratulations, brother.
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."
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Re: we all want to be good 03 Jun 2011 16:15 #107952

  • laagvokeles
dov u a diffrent parsha, u make lomdes out of this porn issue, and u are maarich like the shiurei rabbi shmuel and hard to understand like the bircas shmuel
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Re: we all want to be good 03 Jun 2011 16:17 #107954

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understanding me will not help you. You just need to shut up and do.
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."
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Re: we all want to be good 03 Jun 2011 16:18 #107955

  • laagvokeles
ill do ill do
but please answer me what i asked u on pvt ,NOW!
u are a to busey man!
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Re: we all want to be good 03 Jun 2011 16:20 #107956

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laagvokeles wrote on 03 Jun 2011 16:08:
IM NOT DOING TESHUVA NOW


Well now that we've established that this is not about doing teshuva, I think we're getting somewhere.

So now we can ignore all the frumkeit about whether this is the torah way, not the torah way and we can just focus on the question of how do I stop myself from looking at porn.

Know that we know what were are trying to do and we're not distracted by torah and teshuva.  Tell us tatelah, why do you want to stop looking at porn?
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Re: we all want to be good 03 Jun 2011 16:25 #107958

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lol urajew u freaking me out. >

i want to stop cause bla bla bla LIFE bla bla bla wife bla bla bla.......BLA

im here cause i dont manage to wake up alone... so im here maybe someone wakes me up
thats it
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Re: we all want to be good 03 Jun 2011 16:30 #107960

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We'll wake you up...just step a little closer......
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."
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Re: we all want to be good 03 Jun 2011 19:38 #107979

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laagvokeles wrote on 03 Jun 2011 16:25:

i want to stop cause bla bla bla LIFE bla bla bla wife bla bla bla.......BLA

im here cause i dont manage to wake up alone... so im here maybe someone wakes me up
thats it


I'll let The Jester patiently analyze with you all the blablabla's after you tell him a dvar torah on Motzai Shabbos , while we Americans continue to enjoy Shabbos.

Dov is right that you could probably use a good smack in the head to wake you up, however, if the wake-up call your looking for is some magic idea that will go "poof" and you'll stop looking at porn, it ain't going to happen here.  As Duvid Chaim said recently, to stay Sober and in Recovery we need to "attempt to RE-PROGRAM our minds," that's not something that happens with a "boom" overnight, and there is no quick fix.

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Re: we all want to be good 05 Jun 2011 03:08 #107997

I read a lovely Likutey Moharan, quoting koheles... "There are good days, and there are bad days.  On the good days, enjoy the good, on the bad days, LOOK!!"
Recovery in 6 words:  Trust H".  Clean House.  Help others.
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Re: we all want to be good 05 Jun 2011 08:20 #108003

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ur-a-jew wrote on 03 Jun 2011 19:38:


I'll let The Jester patiently analyze with you all the blablabla's after you tell him a dvar torah on Motzai Shabbos , while we Americans continue to enjoy Shabbos.


You have amazing faith in my analytical abilities.

Unfortunately, such wisdom is beyond my grasp - those "blas" were deep...

But Laag - would you be willing to sacrifice yourself to science a little?  I have an experiment, and would love someone to be a subject.  It involves keeping a log of how you feel on different days.
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