laagvokeles wrote on 01 Jun 2011 16:43:


Minhag?  A רבנן maybe.  But we say on other רבנן .  I don't get it.

its a  all noise on the ran.....
usually its not been used this answer of the ran , the ran has a other one over there

laagvokeles wrote on 01 Jun 2011 17:51:


You've explained nothing.

now u are blackmailing me???
well:
ill try very very short: the ran holds u are not supoused to count days and weecks, so we that we do we are not even doing a tkana of chazal we are just doing a minhag for to remember what it was when the bet hamikdash was.

laagvokeles wrote on 01 Jun 2011 17:59:


Not too much clearer.  Let me ask you this, according to the Ran did they say a shecheyanu on sefiras haomer during the sman of the bais hamikdash.

yes

uraj u i know u learn, so live the learnin out of here...
even the remo paskens that when u are in a toilet if the only way to through out of your mind  a bad thaught (women...)  is with tora learning than you allowed even u are in a toilet....  but hey.... get out of my toilet...  ;D

laagvokeles wrote on 01 Jun 2011 18:22:


Yeah, that's what I want that you should live the learning when you are out of here.  Faux pas or is there something deep within you that really wants to flush and move on.

laagvokeles wrote on 01 Jun 2011 18:58:


ur-a-jew wrote on 01 Jun 2011 17:45:

you put me against a wall, what can i do besides smiling?

laagvokeles wrote on 01 Jun 2011 19:04:


I could say :-X or  :'( or :-[ or  ??? or  :-\ but I'll take jester's advice and not tell you TheJester wrote on 01 Jun 2011 16:38:

laagvokeles wrote on 27 May 2011 12:45:


You bring up 2 interesting points here.  Firstly, that there is no such thing as "partial Teshuva", and secondly that you "you wanna win it you need full backup of hashem".  I understand you to mean "You need Hashem to help you in this battle, because you cannot do it alone".  Because, by yourself, "you are powerless to stop", because the pull of this is too strong?

It seems odd, then, that you say your connection to Hashem is suffering, but only He has the power to take this from you.  Unlike some people, I do not think you blame Him for this.  If you need to stop for Teshuva to be complete, and you need Hashem to stop...  How does it work?

I think what you are trying to say (correct me if I am wrong) is that you need to change yourself, and get Hashem on your side, and then He will look after you?

laagvokeles wrote on 27 May 2011 12:45:


Now I understand why you are frum.  Now tell me - what does it mean to be frum, and what is the actual goal of being frum? (2 separate questions)  What say Chazal on this?

Is it through being frum that you get Hashem to help you, and overcome the difficulties in life?

Is frum what you wear, what you look like and what your traditions are, or is there a deeper side to it?

TheJester wrote on 02 Jun 2011 12:23:


exactly.
just its very hard to get him my side..... in order to get hashem in my side wich is a tremenddous joy, i gotta give up a diffrent tremedous joy-porn.
Now, porn is a lie etc and hashem is a trouth and much more satisfying, but still its a lot of work and מסירות נפש כפשוטו ממש because:

  to get rid of the actual pleasure is very very hard, cause there is between the desonection of porn and conection to hashem a period of time where you are not compleet desconected from porn and connected to hashem and u easy fall between the seats.
so i gotta give up a lot of joy for to get to the promised joy, and its freaking hard, cause u dont sell and buy.... u try to sell and u try to buy for a very long time.... u try and try.... and u buy a bit, but u didnt sell nothing, and then u sell but u didnt buy.... u get me.... its along time of working and tryeeng....

and right now im in a situation worse than that meaning i dont have the strength to move a cm from where im standing, i need a "vitamin" with good mood and hope.

TheJester wrote on 02 Jun 2011 12:23:

well.
first let me tell u that even if there would be no meaning and reason for been frum, it dosnt change nothing, cause its the trouth and im stuck.
Now mmmm been frum is doing what hashem wants, some are lucky and feel joy, some are not.
some are lucky and love davening, some are lucky and love learning some love doing chesed, some love all of them.
One thing is for sure פיקודי ד' ישרים משמחי לב, if someone devotes him self to hashem he is really really happy in this world and in next.

I will address what you said more fully in a while.  Until then:

Have you ever tried to persuade a young child to take medicine that is difficult to swallow, but will make him feel much better after a few hours?

Hard, isn't it?