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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 16:47 #107525

  • TheJester
laagvokeles wrote on 31 May 2011 16:30:

my biggest problem is the porn, cause it affects everething in my life for bad (as mentioned above a few times)


I disagree, and I think that it is a symptom of other things in your life as well.  But we can agree to disagree?  No?
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 16:50 #107526

  • laagvokeles
right right i forgat!
u say that porn is a outcome of my empty life.....
i cant really say an opinion on it... who was first the egg or the chiken....?
how should i know?

but dont forget that when i learn it gives me a tremendous push, and it makes me feel werth something...
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 17:26 #107530

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laagvokeles wrote on 31 May 2011 16:50:

u say that porn is a outcome of my empty life.....

Your life is not empty, and I did not say that.  Having an emptiness in life is very, very different.  I know people with empty lives, and you most definitely are not one.


but dont forget that when i learn it gives me a tremendous push, and it makes me feel werth something...


So, what did you learn today, that you can tell me about?  Teach me a little.  Give me something.
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 17:29 #107531

  • laagvokeles
lol u wanna do a יששכר זבולון?
(in case u dont know, its u pay me, and u get in gan eden a piece of gan eden as u would have learn your self....)

it dosnt go like this... u have to take out your glases and look into the little letters of the gemara....
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 17:53 #107532

  • TheJester
I am only looking for a small present...  For free...  Freely given, by you.

If I say it will make me feel good?
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 18:03 #107533

  • laagvokeles
some how u manage to tell me what to do, what is it with u??

it comes shavuot now, jews went out on a thursday, the torah was given on a shabat after 7 weecks, how many days do we have? not 50, so how come we say shavuot is the time of matan tora?
answers the rivosh, True nothing to do shavuot with matan tora, just today that we have the luach it happens to be in the same time.
shavuot is about bikurim not about matan tora. thats it no more tora here only porn brake!
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 18:08 #107534

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laagvokeles wrote on 31 May 2011 18:03:

some how u manage to tell me what to do, what is it with u??

it comes shavuot now, jews went out on a thursday, the torah was given on a shabat after 7 weecks, how many days do we have? not 50, so how come we say shavuot is the time of matan tora?
answers the rivosh, True nothing to do shavuot with matan tora, just today that we have the luach it happens to be in the same time.
shavuot is about bikurim not about matan tora. thats it no more tora here only porn brake!


I don't get it.  Especially since in Eretz yisroel they still say Zman Matan Torasanu and they only have one day. 
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 18:10 #107535

  • TheJester
So it's not just Zionists who make a big deal out of Yom HaBikkurim?

Anyway, Torah was given Chutz L'Aretz.  So it was on SECOND day Shavuos!

:D

But seriously - thank you.  I really don't learn enough.  Since you learn a lot, you can give me a small portion of Torah daily, and I'll give you entertainment.  Deal?  For one week.

Edit:  I'm going to say this at my Y"T table.  I'll sound really learned :D
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 18:15 #107536

  • laagvokeles
its so funny!!!!
jester and uraj  are saying a magen avraham in the begining of hilcot shvuot!!!
man u ppl have a דעת תורה

uraj your question is from the רמע מפאנו the magen avraham brings it
and jester what u say is the answer on uraj question!

unbelieveble!
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 18:16 #107537

  • TheJester
laagvokeles wrote on 31 May 2011 18:15:

its so funny!!!!
jester and uraj  are saying a magen avraham in the begining of hilcot shvuot!!!
man u ppl have a דעת תורה!


We're all born with it.

So - any deal?
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 18:21 #107539

  • laagvokeles
born with it ? my a!"§"$".

you i love u , cause u sound to have a very straight head, and thats number one in learning tora!
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 18:26 #107542

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laagvokeles wrote on 31 May 2011 18:21:

you i love u , cause u sound to have a very straight head, and thats number one in learning tora!


So you will share something with me daily?  Thanks.  Even a small thing.

:D

My problem was always that I understood stuff quickly, but found it difficult to get it into my emotions, then actions.
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 18:33 #107543

  • laagvokeles
[quote="TheJester" link=topic=3289.msg107542#msg107542 date=1306866409]
[My problem was always that I understood stuff quickly, but found it difficult to get it into my emotions, then actions.
[/quote]

understanding things quiqly is weirth (hope u know what i mean even i know im spelling it wrong) a lot only if u understand things STRAIGHT. and u seem to be naturally a straight head.

what u say about "but found it difficult to get it into my emotions, then actions"
im not sure what u mean beacause im not talking about been a good jew, about learning musar, im talking about understanding gemara
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 18:54 #107546

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laagvokeles wrote on 31 May 2011 18:15:

its so funny!!!!
jester and uraj  are saying a magen avraham in the begining of hilcot shvuot!!!
man u ppl have a דעת תורה

uraj your question is from the רמע מפאנו the magen avraham brings it
and jester what u say is the answer on uraj question!

unbelieveble!


על קושית המג״א מה שאומרין ביום
שישי זמן מתן תורתינו עי״ש, כי כל
איש יהודי שעושה דברים בכח ומשבר א״ע
וכחו לענין אלקי, נעשה מזה תורה והלכה
כענין נתחדשה הלכה בביהמ״ד ולא עמונית
וכו׳ מפני שעשתה כח נפלא נתחדשה
ההלכה וזה הוא מתן תורה באמת שניתן
התורה לישראל במתנה שיוכלו בכוחם ועוז
נפשם לחדש הרבה א״כ מה שהוסיף משה
יום אחד מדעתו והסכים הקב״ה ע״י, שהוא
שנעשה הלכה בשמים ע״י כחו של משה,
מ״מ מה שיש כח לאדם לעשות זה, נקרא
מתן תורה, לזה אנו אומרים ביום שהוסיף
משה מתן תורתינו. בד׳ עביד פרישה, לא
אמר להם מצות פרישה, אלא אי׳ שעשה
להם פרישה, והיינו שלא יוכלו עוד לדבוק
לשום דבר גרוע.

עד כאן דברי החידושי הרים

It could be that this is why the torah says to make Shavuos ממחרת השבת to further allude to the aspect of Torah Shbaal Peh.  In that it is only through Torah Shbaal Peh that we know that ממחרת השבת refers to the day after Pesach and not Shabbos Beraishis.
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 19:01 #107550

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I heard it being explained with a stress on the words Matan Toraseinu. This is a loshon of Matanah = a gift.

Until now the Torah belonged to Hashem; now it belongs to us!


The fact that Moshe Rabbeinu was able to push off the Giving Of the Torah until the next day PROVES that Klal Ysiroel OWN the Torah!


This was on the 1st day of Yom Tov Shevuos!



Is this what the Chidushei Harim is saying?
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