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Re: we all want to be good 30 May 2011 08:58 #107349

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dov wrote on 30 May 2011 01:53:

I like this Jester guy. You like him too, but I think you like him the way a cat 'likes' a mouse...interesting to 'play' with and act sincere. He's a smart guy....But if you go around and around with him and burn him out like you played with others here, I will find out where you live and make you eat p'cha....bli-neder.


You mean to say that he is playing with me?

*gasp*

Never!  Not Laag!
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Re: we all want to be good 30 May 2011 11:08 #107353

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dov wrote on 30 May 2011 01:53:

But if you go around and around with him and burn him out like you played with others here, I will find out where you live and make you eat p'cha....bli-neder.



Hey!

You call that a threat?

Go ahead dov, make my day...

(I love p'tcha...)

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My real name really is
 Eli
Like the original Bendy, Ein hadavar talui ela bee




 
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Re: we all want to be good 30 May 2011 11:35 #107355

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Shhhh!


(I do, too. especially with lemon juice on it and a Canadian Club chaser...especially on succos after some of my mother's duck l'orange ...ooohh.)

You guys are a bunch of fruitcakes all the lot o' ya!
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."
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Re: we all want to be good 30 May 2011 11:45 #107360

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dov wrote on 30 May 2011 11:35:

You guys are a bunch of fruitcakes all the lot o' ya!


True, true.

Takes one to know one.

But you love us anyways.

Besides, I'm a really sick fruitcake.

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Re: we all want to be good 30 May 2011 15:54 #107387

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aren't fruitcakes more apropo for the other holiday, the one with red bekishes and red noses, and not Memorial Day?
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Re: we all want to be good 30 May 2011 20:02 #107408

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laagvokeles wrote on 29 May 2011 21:53:


about the heavy stuff:    :

Well woman are a very strong power over us, the or hachaim says we can only win the battle cause we are jews and with the help of the torah, without it forget it.

And tora, is tora, its like 2 plus 2 is 4 and not 3.9  You wanna have the tora in your site u gotta really do it as it is complete

Now speacking more “stake” more gashmiut :
for my mind to stay clean out of all this nesecities  (movies etc) I got to stay connected to hashem fully, cause if I am just doing a bit, meaning: I don’t watch at woman but I speak lashom hara, it means im not really his slave, meaning, im not really careful about what he wants from me or not, so what happens is; that the second I get my lust attack I just go for it, be cause he aint really my boss….

But if i decide im his slave and I don’t even speack lashon hara, well for a few reasons the lust attack is not gonna overcome me, 1) im not even really supposed to get a lust attack cause I am  in constant been busy meaning my head is or davening or learning or reading, but never just circuling around 2) and in case I did got a lust attack (cause I am a addict or cause I am human) I still have more power than usual cause I am his slave and I don’t do things he dosnt let.


I just want to make sure I got this straight.  If I speak loshon hora or I'm not connected to torah and Hashem fully I might as well give up and I can continue to watch television and movies since there is no way I'm going to stay clean.  Eventually, (perhaps if in between the movie watching I learn enough torah to really connect to Hashem) I will realize the folly of my ways, realize that I'm an eved Hashem that I shouldn't be speaking loshon hora, I shouldn't be look at things that provoke me into further sins and I will be inspired into teshuva shleima.  Does this summarize your position? 
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 01:43 #107427

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dov wrote on 30 May 2011 01:53:

I like this Jester guy. You like him too, but I think you like him the way a cat 'likes' a mouse...interesting to 'play' with and act sincere. He's a smart guy....But if you go around and around with him and burn him out like you played with others here, I will find out where you live and make you eat p'cha....bli-neder.


for sure for sure, 100 % . in your opinion, if someone by the end of the day didnt manage to help me , all he did was wasting hes time.
but i desagree with you. and i told it to you once , l just dont know how to quote a thing not from this page....

ur a jew: there is something in your nusach not good.
"there is no way to get desconnected from porn for someone like me who knows how good it is and tasted it for almost a century (it feels like it  ), without really devoting and putting my all weight with hashem. its just impossible, monkey bussines wouldnt work
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 01:49 #107430

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LOL. Your starting to talk like someone who does the 12 steps.
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 01:53 #107432

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laagvokeles wrote on 31 May 2011 01:43:

dov wrote on 30 May 2011 01:53:

I like this Jester guy. You like him too, but I think you like him the way a cat 'likes' a mouse...interesting to 'play' with and act sincere. He's a smart guy....But if you go around and around with him and burn him out like you played with others here, I will find out where you live and make you eat p'cha....bli-neder.


for sure for sure, 100 % . in your opinion, if someone by the end of the day didnt manage to help me , all he did was wasting hes time.
but i desagree with you. and i told it to you once , l just dont know how to quote a thing not from this page....

laagvokeles wrote on 16 May 2011 13:55:



:-[
good words will always by the end have a influence, my brain acumulates a lot of anti porn information, and one day BOOOM

is that the post you meant?
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 01:57 #107434

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ai zemmy zemmy zemy you always helping! (your wife has to have the best husband service in the world!)
i somehow have a feeling that i wrote מילים כדורבנות before that, but u with your butter heart didnt quote them...
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 02:07 #107436

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thanks for your kind words
but fyi, i did not change your quote at all. you can click on the text where it says 'quote from..' and it will bring you to the quoted message.
לילה טוב
Sometimes life is like tuna with not enough mayonaise
~Inna beshem ZS

Give, Forgive
~Cordnoy

The reason I'm acting as if I'm pregnant, is because I'm expecting. I should be accepting.
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 09:43 #107473

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laagvokeles wrote on 29 May 2011 22:53:

are u a pshicolog?


I am most definitely not a pshicolog!  A Pshickor?  Sometimes...

So how is your learning today?

Oh - you said something a while ago, about your davening being affected by your actions.  Here's what I was thinking.

Your actions are a further symptom of those shown in your davening.  Why do I say this?  Well:
Davening is a connection with Hashem.  If you are not connecting properly, you lose that feeling of wellbeing - that glowing, like scratching an itch.  If you are connected with Hashem, then you could not possibly be acting out in the way that you do.  Seriously - the connection must be faulty for you to act out, so you can't blame the faulty connection  on the acting out.

I think, and I could be wrong, that the problem lies with the connection.  The actions are a consequence of the broken connection, as is the davening, and also the horrible emptiness in you - the one that brought you to GYE, the one you find it difficult to admit to yourself.  The emptiness you feel for life, the one I can hear like a roaring waterfall into nothingness.  The one you can deny until you are blue in the face, but I feel is there anyway, and you will not persuade me is not.  Pornography, masturbation and movies are just one more symptom, and are not the cause of the emptiness in your davening and learning.

What do you think?
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 14:26 #107486

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TheJester wrote on 31 May 2011 09:43:

I am most definitely not a pshicolog!  A Pshickor?


TheJester wrote on 31 May 2011 09:43:

Your actions are a further symptom of those shown in your davening.  Why do I say this?  Well:
Davening is a connection with Hashem.  If you are not connecting properly, you lose that feeling of wellbeing - that glowing, like scratching an itch.  If you are connected with Hashem, then you could not possibly be acting out in the way that you do.  Seriously - the connection must be faulty for you to act out, so you can't blame the faulty connection  on the acting out.

I think, and I could be wrong, that the problem lies with the connection.  The actions are a consequence of the broken connection, as is the davening, and also the horrible emptiness in you - the one that brought you to GYE, the one you find it difficult to admit to yourself.  The emptiness you feel for life, the one I can hear like a roaring waterfall into nothingness.  The one you can deny until you are blue in the face, but I feel is there anyway, and you will not persuade me is not.  Pornography, masturbation and movies are just one more symptom, and are not the cause of the emptiness in your davening and learning.

What do you think?


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More like drunk with chochma.  Right on the mark (or as they say in (or near) your neck of the woods: Spot on.
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 14:29 #107488

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TheJester wrote on 31 May 2011 09:43:

  The emptiness you feel for life,

why do u think so?
the trouth is i dont even know how to ask what i wanna ask you, but its something like; life is not empty it is full, with what? ;D
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Re: we all want to be good 31 May 2011 14:33 #107489

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[quote="laagvokeles" link=topic=3289.msg107488#msg107488 date=1306852157]
[quote="TheJester" link=topic=3289.msg107473#msg107473
why do u think so?
the trouth is i dont even know how to ask what i wanna ask you, but its something like; life is not empty it is full, with what? ;D
[/quote]

Aha!

You are even a step ahead of me!  It's a good thing we didn't try chess - you'd have taken me down in no time.

Do you want to refine the question now, or do you want to do it over a beer...?
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