lol
thats tshuva.....

In other words.
In your initial introduction you desribed a pattern of having ups and downs.
It's great you are in an up now. The longer it lasts the better, we are all happy for you.

But what are you doing different in this up period  than you did in all the other up periods in the past that you are sure you will not fall down now like you did in the past.

Tshuva only starts once you've answered that question (see shaarei tshuva 1-11).

what do u recomend?

Excellent question.

You need an ongoing program of working on yourself and directly addressing this issue.

What works for each person is different.

Many people on this site find that 12 step programs work great for them. I personally never used a 12 step program so I can't comment on that approach.

I personally came to the realization that what you call "good" is not good and will not make me happy. I make sure to chazer on a daily basis why this is so. (There is more to what I do, I can send it to you if you want.) The truth is my marraige and life are so much better since I got this under control, it's hard to imagine going back. Yet the Yetzer Horah is tough and if I don't have daily chizuk (specifically for this), I am scared what can happen. Truth is, even with all this, I take it day be day - complacency is an invitation for disaster.

Don't go there Kosher...

Reb La'ag Vakeles is way too holy for the twelve steps -see all of his posts on this thread!

12 steps are for the real nutcases in his humble opinion, for him the Toirah works just fine!

Did I sum up your שיטה well La'ag Vakeles?

ben durdayah wrote on 11 Jan 2011 18:12:


Actually, BD I thought I saw a ray of light in LvK's attitude when he humbled himself to ask Kosher what he recommended.  Maybe, just maybe, LvK is coming to recognition that his life is in shables, he may not have all the answers and that he is willing to listen and accept someone else's advice. 

I guess time will tell.

Could be that you're right, though I was just warning kosher -if he hasn't read through the earlier posts on this thread -that good old LvK seems to have an allergic reaction when he hears the words "twelve steps". Therefore, even if one thinks that he's ready to swallow that pill -it's worthwhile to not call the baby by it's name, if you follow what I'm saying.

Far be it from me to mock a sincere expression of humility by a poster here on GYE.

EBD

ben durdayah wrote on 11 Jan 2011 18:12:

(I'm just dropping a note here in the middle of the thread and haven't been following too well)

Does that mean he is way too holy to m*st and look at p*rn, too?

--Eye.

Perfect. La'ag would never look at porn, not would he ever touch himself in a sexual way, chuliloh. He is simply too holy a man for such folly. I used to think I was, too.

Then, one day, it dawned on me while I was in the middle of hiding to look at some porn or into some woman's shirt at the supermarket that maybe i wasn't such a kodosh, after all. The more teshuva I thought did, the deeper in the compulsive shtus I got.

What a great teshuvha that was.

I too, can be a 'kodosh'.

Thanks, Reb Yisroel Salanter, for teaching me that I "can be a kodosh, tzaddik, vetomim, and a rasha, muschas, and ba'al gayvoh"! (He said it, not me!)

But seriously. If it really is working for La'ag, then what's the problem? Just cuz it did not work for me does not mean it cannot work for him or everybody else! Alei v'hatzlach, La'ag!

dov wrote on 26 Jan 2011 05:21:


Wow!

That's powerful. Where did he say that one?

BTW -bard's would ask where the real Rebbe R Ber has disappeared to -that post was actually understandable at first glance even to the unlettered like me!

I believe it is a quote from R' Itzele Peterburger (Blazer) from his rebbe, R' Yisroel. I doubt it is in Ohr Yisroel.

Gevaldig Shebigevaldig!

Does anyone know what happened to "LVK" ?

I think he decided to learn some Oir HaChayim HaKudosh until he relly hits bottom, and then come back.

"was it something I said?" (said the little boy who thought it was always about him!)