cant you see that everyone in this thread is trying to help you. you created this thread on december 15th, right now it is the end of december 23.  your thread is already 14 pages long. it has grown faster than any other thread on gye. i have had a thread much longer and im only on page 8.
if we didnt care about you, we wouldnt be trying to help you. the only problem is that any help, or any statement that we tell you, you throw back at us or deny any trith in it. many of the gedolei hador know that addictions exist. im learning the nesivos shalom on shovavim and he is giving ppl advice about how to control lust, and he goes on to say that however there are those that have this middah deeply engraved in their nature. its just a different way of refering to a middah.
we are here to help you, the work that we the gye community....no, we the gye family,....is to help each other. gye is not a debate club where we debate about addictions, do you hear that.we have been trying to help you and give you advice, but you wont take it.laagvokeles wrote on 24 Dec 2010 01:15:

that is a fallacy! addictions get created because of how people act. in torah a lighter way of expressing an addiction is called regilus. being habitual.
but again im not debateing about an addiction, you are entitled to your opinion. but dont play with us. you came to our house looking for help. we are giving you help. and you dont want it. so what are you here for?
i am offering my hand out to you, you are drowing in an ocean miles and miles away from the shore, now, i am offering you my hand. will you take it and let us help you? or will you push it aside waiting to drown.

like the stroy of the person drowning and a boat and a helicopter and everyone came to save him and he said no thank you, im waiting for G-D and he died and told hashem look at my emunah i was waiting for you and you didnt save me. and hashem said FOOL! i sent a boat and a helicopter and you didnt take it!!!!
so will you take my hand or not??

              Uri?

hey hashems soldier, my help i get with speacking to you and to other ppl
im taking your hand by having a conversation....

laagvokeles wrote on 24 Dec 2010 05:36:

So your getting help from all these responses?  My gut tells me that most people are having trouble reading you.  Either your a fool or a faker.

hey stuart.
whats wrong with talking? i talk say my opinion and you say yours....

Stuart wrote on 24 Dec 2010 05:59:


He for sure is getting helped.
He already got 93 posts in 8 days which are  11.625 per day.
I am here more than 2 months and have got just 71 posts
average post takes to write about 10 - 15 minutes so 11.6 posts a day x 15 minutes = that’s almost 3 hours
The time to read the replies add 15 minutes per post = almost 3 hours

He spent the last 8 days about 6 hours daily on GYE

6 hours less por* every day.
6 hours more using the head and thinking
6 hours of doing something constructive


That’s called helped.

Stuart wrote on 24 Dec 2010 05:59:


Actually, I've come to the conclusion that it's just plain immaturity.  LvK you were thrown into life without the basic tools to handle it.  Because you know how to learn you think that you have all the solutions and you use your krum sevoras to support your arguments.  Hopefully, you'll grow up before you finish yourself off and take down your wife and kids in the process.  Hatzlacha and a Good Shabbos.

I'm 38.
I have no idea how old LV is

I'm assuming his low
20s

Having said that

He is a product of a new generation

This generation
Grew up with cell phones and internet and the pushing of the tzniut envelope

I feel bad for him

Woah whoa whoa bards > im 20 dude im more mture than most 40 yr olds when it comes to hashkafos and viewing the world. We dnt blame a 'generation' or outside factors. People have choices to make within the reality they're put in-the ribono shel olom makes sure the prson faces these choices daily. It is how they make theirchoices, oneby one, which molds a persons spirtual wellbeing, personality, and hashkafos. If a person is self-absorbed, or whatever it is, when they are 30 it is THEIR fault thanks to the decisionsTHEY made

Dear LV,

You are satisfied eating the scraps of bones out of the garbage can - and you have a full course gourmet meal waiting for you called real life with your family. Isn't it pathetic? You think you are happy? If so, why are you bored? Why are you messing up your Olam haba? Maybe messing up other things, too...

Actually I do not know if you are an addict, at all. Only you can decide that, nobody else. I think you are just another one of those yeshivish-looking guys who hooked up with a yeshivish woman and is playing the role of a ben Torah pretty well for the perks. Maybe for the Ola haba, maybe for other perks. I wonder if you smoke, too...

And like you said, you are bored. The perks just are not really enough.

You wrote:




I have met a lot of people in SA over the past few years, and I promise you that I know many dozens of goyim who would not give you a minute consideration. You are not even up to their toes in yashrus, sanity and awareness of Hashem. And the fact that "well, they are believing in yoshkeh, and I am with the real G-d" - is so irrelevant that it is sad. Hashem is so true, yet your relationship with Him is so useless.

If schar v'onesh is what you want, that's fine. But Hashem did not make bechirah and schar ve'onesh in order to punish anyone. He made it all for one reason: to give s'char for mitzvos. Punishment is all the other side of the same coin - it is not the point, just a heicha timzeh, at best.

So since your derech is not working for you (if you are still using schmutz) all it does is give life to the Other Side. You are distracted from the whole point of the b'riyah, the Torah, and Am Yisroel. And your response is just, "I like to talk, what's so bad about that? You say your opinion, I say mine? Nu."

The people on this forum are trying to get better. You are too busy feeling better than goyim.

If you decide you want something different from what you are getting (which I doubt), I suggest staying away from frum yidden for recovery and going to an AA meeting to meet some illiterate goyishe farmboys or inner city 'African Americans' who are sober alcoholics. If you really listen hard, they will give you a free lesson in yashrus that might help knock some of the silly trash out of your head.

Your life will be better, not worse for it.

If it works, let me know. Otherwise I have nothing else to say.

Now I'll go have a cookie.

Ah Guten Shabbos!

gite voch guys!
tomid besimcha you are good but very good in mathematics....! i love this place!

this is what ppl dont seem to understand here, that i am not here "really really for help"..... i dont want right now to stop the shmutz..... dont get it wrong, i just watch 2 or 3 times a day a bit of porn because i got tigered by something, and then there is 2 days in the week that i force my self not to loock shmutz even if i get tigered cause i gotta live something for my wife 2....

anyway my been here is only cause like my dear friend TB sayd i save my self from shmutz by been busey, and because  i love u guys, everyone with his own opinion, with his own aproach it makes me smart, i learn a lot from u guys, but i dont really think you can help me, i think in my case i just need to be tigered, like to start getting bored of you tube , hollywood movies etc, or i should suddennly i realise that i am waisting my time, and in a sec i am back to the real oilam haze... (it can be so good! much better then what i do now...!), but what should i do, there has been very good movies lately and national geographic has also wonderfool lions fight....

i am here for  to  simply speack to you, bring out the point what a big shaigetz i am , and also sometimes i can manage to say a nice thing to somebody so i even did a mizva , anyway i enjoy u guys, its intresting to see the aproach of a university guy, chasidish guy, shrink guy i love it , and thank you !!!

oh by the way to dov: i am not happy at all, i am not using my time i am pushing away time in the best way i can.... i try to sleep wach movies the most i can.... i am only envolved in real activity around 6 hs a day.... the rest time i push with GIE, movies, games,sleep, music, porn (2 or 3 times a day). no i am not happy.... but right now i dont have apetite.... ill not explain to much u r a shrink and u got it..... (i am not depressed, i just wanna have a time with my self, dont wanna do nothing that i dont really want, and i want now "prikas oil" i dont wanna answer even to go-d.... hashem yerachem...., dont want no pressure.... wanna be like a little child just doing what i like.... in this case ( i mean by wasting my time with movies and youtube) i dont really like it.... but atliest i do what ever its in my mind..., )

bards and teddy: i am more than 30 years old ( i dont wanna say exact age you know why....)

I understand, cannot and would not judge if you are a sheigetz, and am nobody to give you any speeches, being a hopelessly addicted person, myself. If it were not for the tremendous pain that my own behavior brought me to, I'd certainly be still out there spending all my energy trying to 'beat the game'. I'd still be looking at porn and pursuing all my fantasies full-time - and of course trying not to masturbate (because I am a shtik'l yid).

Maybe you should come back when Life gives you that cold, wet slap in the face that it likes to give us once things get bad enough...in the meantime what is whining about yourself going to help anyone?

dov im just talking, sharing opinions etc, not whining at all
but if you think im making ppl "cold" with my "krume svarot", im runing out of here right now! ein adam chote velo lo......

dov u a professional shrink?

david whats wrong whats the charoin af?

lol it looks like u drunk already....

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