chas vesholoim!

oy lagger. but have you tried even one thing suggested to you? have you even read the handbooks?

how about trying relax WITH your wife. listen to music together and bake something together (it's not too girly don't worry plenty of dudes can whip up a batch of chocolate chip cookies)
go on a walk together, go TRAMPOLINING together...
you don't have to spend three hours talking about stuff she wants to tell you about.

a lot of times we turn to porn and other distractions because we are not getting the fullfillment we need out of life itself so we escape from it and chill.
find fulfillment with the life outside computer in your wife, your children, your friends your learnign, productive hobbies...

what more shoudl i tell you? there s not a lot more. you have said what your problems, i've listened, tried to direct you to a better place, but what more can i do?

teddybear, thank you for ur services they have been very helpfool, may hashem pay u in return

Laag vokelles

I don't know u

So if I'm off mark. Sorry

You don't love your wife

You know that and she knows that

You don't love yourself either

U have nothing left man

Its all dead nerve ends


That's all that's left


You probably don't even enjoy. Shmuts

To u its all the same por# teshuva love etc etc

I hope you hit rock bottom real real hard.  Wake up and realize all the hirhur tesuvas and sarisa diliailas and litatas are all here

By the way u can hit rock bottom while ur still on top


I have pity on u

I have pity on ur wife

I have pity on your son

How many of your unmarried freinsd would love a wife to talk recipes and sem freinds

You need help

Get it fast


Read harrys son

Its funny


I wish u would allow yourself to be helped

Raaaaaaaaaah!!!! 

what can i say on that....? u are right u r not right, whats the diffrence....
ill be here and say what i think about what u think if youll live me space...

by the way i really dont enjoy porn so much, i feel more like a cow that has to be milked (take out the milk) meaning i suddenly get a lust atack and i wanna get rid of it so i masturbate but its not a real enjoyment... i only do it for to get "rid" of the "weight" pressure" of the taave....

im not a goi that even with no taave he go to the club for chiks (makshe azmoi lodaas) and he works and developes by him self the desire..... im not like that, the desire atacks me first.... and i have to get rid of it....

so no i dont enjoy porn, porn is only a method a remedy to get rid of lust that atacked me before i started to wach porn.
how did it atack me? well by seen a pretty woman walking down the street.... (know the song...?) or by waching a movie (blockbuster hollywood)

I think u need professional help

Help that costs time and $$$ 

Hey its your life

nu nu.....

laagvokeles wrote on 23 Dec 2010 22:50:


sounds like a very very very very advanced stage of a sever addiction to lust and an even deeper addiction to masturbation/por* 
an addiction DOES fit in with torah perspective. as jews, we still beleive in the concept of an addiction, even with the concept of we have the power to control every nisayon that we have. the concept of an addiction does NOT contradict anything in torah

lol
to me it sounds like very very very sever yetzer hara.....
beteilo mevi lidei shiamum, shiamum meivi lidei znus......

my behaveour was all written long before i was even born into this world....

Yeah schar vionesh is for losers. Yeah

Man u need serius help

Go to dov.

Forget religion

U need to be normal

nebech... schar veoinesh for loosers? are u a apikoires? shaigetz arous!

I'm trying to figure out who the sheygetz is on the one hand Bards says don't focus on the onesh but he's been sober for quite a while and works daily on improving himself and coming closer to Hashem. On the other hand you have LvK who things schar v'onesh is fundamental swears he's going to burn in Hell but is mishuketz in tayva can't keep his hand of his body or his eyes off anything thay wears a skirt but refuses to do anything about it. This is a tough one.

lol u have a point there.....

anyway bardtchev was tryeeng to say that thats not where i should focus (tshuva)... i should reather focus in "health"....

and i answerd him stop speacking nonsence who ever found out this "adiction" story, only created this for ppl that if you will tell them its theyr foult, they will get even worse.... so they tell to those ppl "darling my sweetheart bla bla bla.
could be in many cases its an adiction... like to pick the nose can turn into a adiction....

but i am defenetly a shaigetz right now and i believe in go,d (bards also believes, he is not a apikoires, he was tryeeng to make a point, me 2...)

laagvokeles wrote on 24 Dec 2010 00:10:

hakol bidei shamayim, chutz miyiras shamayim, your personality that draws you to lust was given to you before birth, but how you use it is up to you. like the example of someone who has the mazal to spill blood, just go into shechita or milah.