well let me put it this way:  or that both (your friend and his wife) are very smart or both are very stupid.... cause if one is smart and the other one is stupid how can they enjoy a conversation for 3 hs.....

it dos not mean you dont have sholom bais if you dont speack that long....  cause with a full atention to your wife of 20 min (even if its fake) you can save your self from speackin nonsence (  ;D  ) for 3 hs....

enjoying wife's company is beautiful.

sorry u have to fake it for 20 minutes . ur wife is the best thing that ever happened to you- you asked her to marry you dude.

Rabbi Aryeh Pamensky's three A's for the wife are Attention, Appreciation, Affection

teddy are u married?

any way my wife is really the best thing ever ocured to me... believe me when i tell you BUT.....

but also my small baby of 2 years old is included  in "the best things i have" and even so i dont enjoy talking to him ......

 

so from what it sounds like, the only (ONLY) way that you engoy yourself if by watching p***
you dont like going to simchas, or shalom zachors or doing chesed or any of the other things you say you dont do, now you say that you cant even talk to your wife for 20 min without fakeing it??????  the reason that you only enjoy yourself by p*** is cus you dont want to enjoy anything. you dont want to enjoy simchas, you dont want to go to a friends shalom zachor you dont want to do chesed, this all equals, that you tell yourself that you want to stop acting out, but you truthfully dont care, sometimes you get this "feeling of teshuva" its all fake because yuo dont want to do anythign about!!!
how about you do go out to a shalom zachor? learn how to be sociable even if you dont want to. they do sing at simchas and one can grow at them. so even if you dont want to go, go for the singing and the spiritual growth. if you dont want to learn how to and to expirence relaxation and a good time the way a jew defines it, then obviously the only thing that you will ever find relaxing is p***

i enjoy pc games movies and even porn in one site, and to learn toiro and daven in the other site

and i probabaly only fake the lest three min of the 20 min that i speack to her.....

"moishe u have to see i met a friend today that i learnd with in sem she still looks the same" awwwww....

"moishe u know today a started a new recepy" awwwwww.....
come on... who ever enjoys it or has pacience for it i can only say: man u have a eassy life.....

laagvokeles wrote on 23 Dec 2010 20:22:

yes, i have read that you have said that previously on this thread. but that only has to do with the 1st line of my previous post. did you read the rest of my post???
laagvokeles wrote on 23 Dec 2010 20:22:

ok, i know how women are. do you think you are the only one whos wife says that? do you know what to do? you make a conversation. why not go tell her at the end of the day i found a great vort. or say a vort at the shabbas table,.....theres really so much that you can do to really have a good convorsation with her for more than 20 min

mechanchim say: you pomp her up with 20 min full of atention (i think they say 15 is enough), nothing allse needed.

that is rediculous.
thats all ill say

liscen to the nusach of the mechanchim: "either or"  either u give her atention with full concentration of 20 min and then u r done for the all day, or if you dont you gonna have to "pay" with much more later on.... (maybe with 3 hs... )

but whoever enjoys it is one lucky guy

'pay her' w/ attention? this woman is ur soul mate. she wants to share with you her day b/c she loves you, she wants to spend time w/ u cuz she loves u, she wants u 2 listen 2 her b/c u are her HUSBAND



i hope who i marry, we can shmooze and tease each other and talk and joke around - why not? who you marry is the person you shoudl want to spend your life with- spending life with them means spending TIME with them.

lol..... u r cute and also right

laagvokeles wrote on 23 Dec 2010 21:06:


tell ur wife you love her tonight, and watch her face get so happy.

u got it all wrong!
i tell her 100000 times a day i love her.... its the long conversations about her friend that bought to her kids such nice clothing that i only do for "her" not for me.... and i am usually yotze yedei chiuv with 20:00 min
any way lets speack again about porn baby.... ;D

laagvokeles wrote on 23 Dec 2010 21:15:

thats the problem, you only wanna talk about it, you dont wanna do anything about it