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Re: First step in the right direction הבא לטהר מסייעין 13 Nov 2024 03:03 #424950

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5678 wrote on 13 Nov 2024 02:13:

vehkam wrote on 12 Nov 2024 20:38:

5678 wrote on 12 Nov 2024 18:16:

vehkam wrote on 12 Nov 2024 14:26:
Thank you for your post. It is painful and confusing when our motivation changes from day to day. May I suggest that you make small commitments that you can keep to. For example committing to learn 10 minutes of Chumash rashi every Thursday, committing to daven in Shul one dedicated tefila every week etc… instead of shooting for everything at once. . Keep to those small commitments religiously and eventually with hashems help you will be able to build and expand on them.

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll try it, but I don't think this will work for me as I'm a whole or nothing kind of guy, I think I need some deep mind work done

All or nothing comes directly from the yetzer hara….

That right, but what do I do now?
thanks for adding something to my list of things I have to work on.

Vehkam’s comment is not just another thing to add to your list, it’s one major nekudah that can help you with everything else on your list. 

It’s the key to everything.

Waiting around for “deep mind work” may end with you even more hopelessly lost deep inside your brain. 

Think about what Vehkam is saying. And maybe try reading his thread to see how he used this approach to get out of the worst situation you can imagine. 

Feeling your pain (I really related to your post on a very personal level) and hoping for your hatzlacha! 

Re: First step in the right direction הבא לטהר מסייעין 13 Nov 2024 04:20 #424966

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Thank you. Changing the all or nothing perspective is an essential part of the mind work necessary to overcome the challenges you face. There is no quick fix but there can be an immediate change of direction.
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Re: First step in the right direction הבא לטהר מסייעין 13 Nov 2024 04:39 #424974

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youknowwho wrote on 13 Nov 2024 03:03:

5678 wrote on 13 Nov 2024 02:13:

vehkam wrote on 12 Nov 2024 20:38:

5678 wrote on 12 Nov 2024 18:16:

vehkam wrote on 12 Nov 2024 14:26:
Thank you for your post. It is painful and confusing when our motivation changes from day to day. May I suggest that you make small commitments that you can keep to. For example committing to learn 10 minutes of Chumash rashi every Thursday, committing to daven in Shul one dedicated tefila every week etc… instead of shooting for everything at once. . Keep to those small commitments religiously and eventually with hashems help you will be able to build and expand on them.

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll try it, but I don't think this will work for me as I'm a whole or nothing kind of guy, I think I need some deep mind work done

All or nothing comes directly from the yetzer hara….

That right, but what do I do now?
thanks for adding something to my list of things I have to work on.

Vehkam’s comment is not just another thing to add to your list, it’s one major nekudah that can help you with everything else on your list. 

It’s the key to everything.

Waiting around for “deep mind work” may end with you even more hopelessly lost deep inside your brain. 

Think about what Vehkam is saying. And maybe try reading his thread to see how he used this approach to get out of the worst situation you can imagine. 

Feeling your pain (I really related to your post on a very personal level) and hoping for your hatzlacha! 

It was supposed to be a wink emoji after that comment

Re: First step in the right direction הבא לטהר מסייעין 13 Nov 2024 04:40 #424976

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vehkam wrote on 13 Nov 2024 04:20:
Thank you. Changing the all or nothing perspective is an essential part of the mind work necessary to overcome the challenges you face. There is no quick fix but there can be an immediate change of direction.

Thank you 

Re: First step in the right direction הבא לטהר מסייעין 13 Nov 2024 08:02 #424984

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Hi all, I spoke to HHM earlier, and he helped me clear my mind and think straight, so basically, we decided that changing all or noting nature will be hard for now, and according to HHM it's part of the אונגערישע DNA, so we came to a conclusion that I'll take 1 think that i feel is the most meaningful to me and I'll do that all the way.(We basically changed the definition of the ALL mindwork),I chose chumish rashi, and he recommended that I start right then. Bh, i did, and I'm up to shlishi.I'm feeling better Bh

Re: First step in the right direction הבא לטהר מסייעין 13 Nov 2024 11:07 #424988

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5678 wrote on 13 Nov 2024 08:02:
Hi all, I spoke to HHM earlier, and he helped me clear my mind and think straight, so basically, we decided that changing all or noting nature will be hard for now, and according to HHM it's part of the אונגערישע DNA, so we came to a conclusion that I'll take 1 think that i feel is the most meaningful to me and I'll do that all the way.(We basically changed the definition of the ALL mindwork),I chose chumish rashi, and he recommended that I start right then. Bh, i did, and I'm up to shlishi.I'm feeling better Bh

Changing all or nothing ANYTIME won't be hard right now. It will be IMPOSSIBLE FOREVER. 
There's no such thing as changing all or nothing. 
Our greatest tzadikim sinned regularly. (See ramban last weeks parsha on Sarah hurting Hagar) 

We have Yom Kippur every year where we explicitly list our many sins, including some serious ones. 
We mention chiyuvei missos beis din. You don't get that unless you really want it! And yet Hashem forgives. 
We say every single day three times, Selach Lanu. Who's that for? Someone who is perfect? 
Being perfect is just the yetzer hara when he has nothing left to give. 
Please continue sinning for the rest of your life while at the same time continue shteiging like you are already doing. Continue making monumental improvements in your life. You are a true hero. 

Perfection is the enemy of success (Rabbi Frand-i think)
I didn't believe I could be clean
Until I actually got clean.
If I can do it, you can too!

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Re: First step in the right direction הבא לטהר מסייעין 13 Nov 2024 11:07 #424989

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What a brilliance, using the all or nothing mentality effectively!

Something to remember, take one small thing and do it all the way….

Thank you for sharing this!
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Re: First step in the right direction הבא לטהר מסייעין 13 Nov 2024 12:29 #424994

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Muttel wrote on 13 Nov 2024 11:07:
What a brilliance, using the all or nothing mentality effectively!

Something to remember, take one small thing and do it all the way….

Thank you for sharing this!

Now you know how to deal with our Ungarishe brethren.......
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