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Re: Comparing my body to others 11 May 2016 13:54 #287482

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@Didan: When you get engaged IY"H, hopefully you will have a good Chassan teacher who can answer all these questions. Meanwhile I don't think it's healthy or productive to obsess about this stuff.

 
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Re: Comparing my body to others 11 May 2016 14:06 #287485

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Gevura Shebyesod wrote on 11 May 2016 13:54:
@Didan: When you get engaged IY"H, hopefully you will have a good Chassan teacher who can answer all these questions. Meanwhile I don't think it's healthy or productive to obsess about this stuff.

 

It may not be healthy, but it is not easy to avoid thinking about it. None the less, i agree with the last poster that you will hopefully receive guidance on all of this when you are engaged. 

Re: i am worried about what to do 11 May 2016 18:50 #287524

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I had these fears and questions when I was a bochur, as well. 
Don't worry about it for now.
Focus on what you need to do right now.
When the time comes, b'shaah tovah, your chosson teacher will help clarify things for you.

 

Re: Comparing my body to others 21 May 2023 22:01 #395968

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Grateful to find this thread here, as the answers to questions posed here were questions that were repeating in my head and hurting my self esteem for a long time. Thank you Chevra. 
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Re: Comparing my body to others 22 May 2023 00:11 #395975

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@Didan: 
So before marriage we compare and believe that only the size matters, and that is also the only way to make your wife happy in bed.
After marriage we often find out that women don't really enjoy sex the way men do. What a disappointment!
Then we start comparing how long we last in bed? and we get all frustrated...…
Lets start being real and let go of the fantasy and bluff the porn industry is brainwashing us.

​Sex can only be enjoyable, if you stop watching porn and delete everything you saw. If its possible ?
Masturbation destroys intimacy as well.
Oral sex is not what normal women want to do or receive. I hope I don't disappoint you?  

Real love is caring and giving only in a way she likes.
Porn teaches us men, just how to take and to enjoy the most without taking the feeling of the women into consideration.
In porn, the women are treated like slaves, their pain and discomfort are totally ignored.
It seems that they are enjoying, but they all suffer in silent and only put on smile for the camera in order to earn a few bucks.
So sad, and my heart goes out for all those poor girls who fall into prostitutions out of poverty.
 *  NO, It's not all or nothing, just every bit counts!
 *  I failed yesterday, and I might fail tomorrow. But just for today I'm going to give it a try.
 *  Being curios made me lust and get into trouble.

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Re: Comparing my body to others 22 May 2023 18:37 #396025

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If i had some of these posts back then..i might not have needed to be here.
Ah well, Hashem gives what you need

Re: Comparing my body to others 22 May 2023 22:23 #396031

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We all learn from our own mistakes
 *  NO, It's not all or nothing, just every bit counts!
 *  I failed yesterday, and I might fail tomorrow. But just for today I'm going to give it a try.
 *  Being curios made me lust and get into trouble.

אָמַר רבי יוחנן: אֵבֶר קָטָן יֵשׁ לוֹ לָאָדָם, מַרְעִיבוֹ = שָׂבֵעַ, מַשְׂבִּיעוֹ = רָעֵב

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Re: Comparing my body to others 07 Sep 2023 05:02 #400932

Oral sex is not what normal women want to do or receive. I hope I don't disappoint you?

Just a very blunt curious question, if someone has an answer...

Putting the halacha part - if o/s is not allowed or the opposite- aside, can a women get pregnant after doing o/s? Maybe you’re all laughing from me now, but I never got it clear.

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Re: Comparing my body to others 07 Sep 2023 08:24 #400933

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Trying The Best wrote on 07 Sep 2023 05:02:


Oral sex is not what normal women want to do or receive. I hope I don't disappoint you?

Just a very blunt curious question, if someone has an answer...

Putting the halacha part - if o/s is not allowed or the opposite- aside, can a women get pregnant after doing o/s? Maybe you’re all laughing from me now, but I never got it clear.

You never heard that if you eat the pips you'll have a tree growing in your stomach?

Re: Comparing my body to others 07 Sep 2023 10:40 #400934

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Trying The Best wrote on 07 Sep 2023 05:02:


Oral sex is not what normal women want to do or receive. I hope I don't disappoint you?

Just a very blunt curious question, if someone has an answer...

Putting the halacha part - if o/s is not allowed or the opposite- aside, can a women get pregnant after doing o/s? Maybe you’re all laughing from me now, but I never got it clear.

No

Re: Comparing my body to others 07 Sep 2023 12:00 #400935

iwillmanage wrote on 07 Sep 2023 08:24:

Trying The Best wrote on 07 Sep 2023 05:02:


Oral sex is not what normal women want to do or receive. I hope I don't disappoint you?

Just a very blunt curious question, if someone has an answer...

Putting the halacha part - if o/s is not allowed or the opposite- aside, can a women get pregnant after doing o/s? Maybe you’re all laughing from me now, but I never got it clear.

You never heard that if you eat the pips you'll have a tree growing in your stomach?

As a young kid my father used to tell me if i eat the seeds from the watermelon i’ll grow a watermelon tree in my stomach from it…

but i got the answer already in private and here from others, thanks.

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Re: Comparing my body to others 07 Sep 2023 12:02 #400936

Thanks.

so from a Jewish perspective, whats the point of it if she cannot get pregnant?

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Re: Comparing my body to others 07 Sep 2023 13:38 #400942

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Porn teaches us men, just how to take and to enjoy the most without taking the feeling of the women into consideration.
In porn, the women are treated like slaves, their pain and discomfort are totally ignored.

Maybe, that hasn't been my experience, though. There is porn which shows how to take care of women sexually, which I enjoyed watching. I'm not condoning it, and I wish, on balance, that I had not seen it, but it showed me basic ways to make my wife feel good that we may very well have not thought of but for that. It is not all about making men into pigs and horrible people. It is quite possible that the producers are evil people and the actors are preyed upon, which is also common in Chinese factories.
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Re: Comparing my body to others 07 Sep 2023 13:51 #400944

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Trying The Best wrote on 07 Sep 2023 12:02:
Thanks.

so from a Jewish perspective, whats the point of it if she cannot get pregnant?

There's no point. 
@doingtshuva wrote in this thread "After marriage we often find out that women don't really enjoy sex the way men do" that's if the mans focus is to GIVE...  
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Re: Comparing my body to others 07 Sep 2023 19:35 #400951

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richtig wrote on 07 Sep 2023 13:38:


Porn teaches us men, just how to take and to enjoy the most without taking the feeling of the women into consideration.
In porn, the women are treated like slaves, their pain and discomfort are totally ignored.

Maybe, that hasn't been my experience, though. There is porn which shows how to take care of women sexually, which I enjoyed watching. I'm not condoning it, and I wish, on balance, that I had not seen it, but it showed me basic ways to make my wife feel good that we may very well have not thought of but for that. It is not all about making men into pigs and horrible people. It is quite possible that the producers are evil people and the actors are preyed upon, which is also common in Chinese factories.

We each have our own experiences and exposures. Thinking back to mine I believe that the idea of the men pleasuring the women was a way of feeling powerful, i.e. he can get her where he wants through his actions, and that's what makes him a success. 
Point being, even giving somebody else pleasure can be all about yourself. That's my understanding of what I've seen, and there's no question I was affected by it
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