Workingguy wrote on 19 May 2016 23:19:
Yesod wrote on 19 May 2016 13:58:
Well said Simcha.
I am thoroughly convinced that life is NOT necessarily more enjoyable for someone who isn't jewish and can do whatever they want, etc.
For 1, look at how many jews who were secular leave it all behind and come to torah and mitzvos etc.
Both my parents are BT, and i heard over the years how nothing is as appealing as the truth.
In the holy books it is said that all which is wrong is inherently dark, lifeless and devoid of life, hence it must leech onto holiness and harvest that energy for its own designs.
(As sometimes we experience that after particularly holy times (ie shabbas, learning) we can find ourselves in the midst of very difficult challenges) In the same vein, this is also why the jew can outdo his peers in perversion of mind and heart, when that potent energy goes awry, it goes awry.
So in essence all of the lusting and passion and pleasure are twisted manifestations of holy energy stolen and expressed out of whack.
Were one to throw away these sources of energy by living apart from torah and mitzvod, there wouldnt be much supply of energy sustenance for our enjoyment of sin.
It would quickly descend into empty and lifeless activities, a frantic pursuit of an elusive thrill that once captivated us.
(Man i had better snap back to reality, this post is a bit "out there"................................. need a morning coffee)
I am thoroughly convinced that life is almost certainly not more enjoyable for one who's not Jewish, for a million reasons. I too have thought about what it would be like to be not Jewish and be able to do what I want, and it ends at seventy something and lonely, having slept with a lot of women and no long term relationship, a few divorces, and no kids or estrangement from them. I wasn't even trying to convince myself that our way is better, but I couldn't possibly see a way that not having a guide to life could end anyway but pretty miserably, especially for someone who probably would act on every impulse if they weren't Jewish.
So I'm sticking on this team even if I get the
"Switched at birth" phone call!
Yeah, we'll see when you get the call,.......
"Sooooooooo mr working guy, your last name is actually Rockefeller. ..., wanna come home? "
Working guy response
"Noooooo!!!, chas vchalila, feh, and besides can't you see I'm gratteh in the middle of asher yotsar from a siddur, leave me alone!, oh no, i talked in the middle, oh no, oh no, someone give me malkus, please, ok gotta go bye, thanks anyways for calling", click
Yeahhhh, riiiiiiight
Are you kidding? For money? I thought we were talking about giving it all up for taavah, sexual stuff. That would be a struggle and I wouldn't do it but it would be tough.
But for money I would never even entertain it. Perhaps because I Baruch HaShem don't have financial worries and if I did it would be different- but if you would give it up for sex and for money, what's keeping you in? Just the accident of being born Jewish? That's very uninspiring.
And interestingly, although I had a choice to go into the for profit sector and join a successful family business, I chose to become a rabbi because I like to learn, teach, and have a push to grow in my own yiddishkeit.
Sorry for sounding corny but I would never give this up- not for a billion dollars, forty virgins, or every porn star in the world.