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Re: I want to improve my life for good 01 Feb 2016 05:19 #276138

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pomodoro wrote on 31 Jan 2016 23:39:
When will be the glory of the moment wherein we understand that the ecstasy, the heating and the search for sexual pleasure are such bad things for us...
It isn't "part of this world".
It isn't part of the purpose and function by which we live in this world.
Those who don't stick to this fact are condemned to live miserable on earth.

Sexual pleasure is very much part of "this world". The world kinda wouldn't exist without it. In my experience making sex bad just added to my shame. It did not keep me sober. There are a hell of a lot of good things about sex and sexual pleasure. My problem isn't sex, my problem is me. When I tell myself that sex is the problem I am merely delaying myself from recovering and just adding more crud the the dump-load I already have. I don't know where you are getting this from and even from a religious perspective there is nothing wrong with sexual pleasure. Although I didn't get a chosson shmooze, I'm pretty sure that it's supposed to be pleasurable.
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Re: I want to improve my life for good 01 Feb 2016 12:21 #276150

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Shlomo24 wrote on 01 Feb 2016 05:19:
pomodoro wrote on 31 Jan 2016 23:39:
When will be the glory of the moment wherein we understand that the ecstasy, the heating and the search for sexual pleasure are such bad things for us...
It isn't "part of this world".
It isn't part of the purpose and function by which we live in this world.
Those who don't stick to this fact are condemned to live miserable on earth.

Sexual pleasure is very much part of "this world". The world kinda wouldn't exist without it. In my experience making sex bad just added to my shame. It did not keep me sober. There are a hell of a lot of good things about sex and sexual pleasure. My problem isn't sex, my problem is me. When I tell myself that sex is the problem I am merely delaying myself from recovering and just adding more crud the the dump-load I already have. I don't know where you are getting this from and even from a religious perspective there is nothing wrong with sexual pleasure. Although I didn't get a chosson shmooze, I'm pretty sure that it's supposed to be pleasurable.


Shlomo, I don't fully understand his English, but perhaps he was referrin' to the "search" for sexual pleasure.
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Re: I want to improve my life for good 01 Feb 2016 17:31 #276192

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cordnoy wrote on 01 Feb 2016 12:21:
Shlomo24 wrote on 01 Feb 2016 05:19:
pomodoro wrote on 31 Jan 2016 23:39:
When will be the glory of the moment wherein we understand that the ecstasy, the heating and the search for sexual pleasure are such bad things for us...
It isn't "part of this world".
It isn't part of the purpose and function by which we live in this world.
Those who don't stick to this fact are condemned to live miserable on earth.

Sexual pleasure is very much part of "this world". The world kinda wouldn't exist without it. In my experience making sex bad just added to my shame. It did not keep me sober. There are a hell of a lot of good things about sex and sexual pleasure. My problem isn't sex, my problem is me. When I tell myself that sex is the problem I am merely delaying myself from recovering and just adding more crud the the dump-load I already have. I don't know where you are getting this from and even from a religious perspective there is nothing wrong with sexual pleasure. Although I didn't get a chosson shmooze, I'm pretty sure that it's supposed to be pleasurable.


Shlomo, I don't fully understand his English, but perhaps he was referrin' to the "search" for sexual pleasure.

Ok, if that is the case then I retract some of what I said. I will wait and see though.
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Re: I want to improve my life for good 01 Feb 2016 21:58 #276230

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Shlomo24 wrote on 01 Feb 2016 05:19:
pomodoro wrote on 31 Jan 2016 23:39:
When will be the glory of the moment wherein we understand that the ecstasy, the heating and the search for sexual pleasure are such bad things for us...
It isn't "part of this world".
It isn't part of the purpose and function by which we live in this world.
Those who don't stick to this fact are condemned to live miserable on earth.

Sexual pleasure is very much part of "this world". The world kinda wouldn't exist without it. In my experience making sex bad just added to my shame. It did not keep me sober. There are a hell of a lot of good things about sex and sexual pleasure. My problem isn't sex, my problem is me. When I tell myself that sex is the problem I am merely delaying myself from recovering and just adding more crud the the dump-load I already have. I don't know where you are getting this from and even from a religious perspective there is nothing wrong with sexual pleasure. Although I didn't get a chosson shmooze, I'm pretty sure that it's supposed to be pleasurable.


Shlomo,
I actually have to agree with you to certain extent. Just because when I hear terms and speeches that sound like self negation, what are usually end up hearing people who are pressing very hard to push against their urges. It's been said that the Yetzer Hara is like a spring; if you push hard against it, it pushes right back. I wouldn't be questioning this if it was working for him, but I'm not hearing that. It almost sounds like a very Christian approach.

I also don't really understand what he wrote above about downloading pictures of beautiful but clothed women to look at their faces to know how to relate to them.

I'm not here to tell someone that their way can't be right for them, but right now I'm hearing something being shared that doesn't really seem to make sense and doesn't seem to be working.

Re: I want to improve my life for good 01 Feb 2016 22:55 #276234

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Workingguy wrote on 01 Feb 2016 21:58:
I also don't really understand what he wrote above about downloading pictures of beautiful but clothed women to look at their faces to know how to relate to them.

I didn't even know he wrote that. If I did that with guys I wouldn't be sober for very long
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Re: I want to improve my life for good 22 Feb 2016 10:57 #278706

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Hello, I've made some needed changes in my signature.
You can take a look at it.
All in all, I hope to success in my struggle.
No doubt about it.
In order not to generate confusion or misunderstandings, I make it clear that I am not a Jew, but a help-seeking person due to my struggle with pornography and bad sexual-behaviours.
I truly appreciate and respect the Jews people and its religious beliefs and practices.
I very much appraise and admire its work on this web-page. 


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