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Why not RSA instead of SA 16 Jun 2014 08:09 #233582

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I remember someone mentioning to me once that he goes to a "Loshon Hora Shiur" every Sunday night.
I asked him in jest, "Does only the one who gives the shiur speak Loshon Hora at the shiur, or can the participants join in?"
Obviously I was making note of the fact that it should be referred to as a "Shmiras Haloshon Shiur" not as a "Loshon Horah Shiur"!

On the same note, The meetings for recovering alcoholics are called "AA" meetings, meaning "Alchaholcs Anonymous" meetings. and based on that, the meetings for Sexaholics are called "SA" (Sexaholics Anonymous) meetings.

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to refer to the meetings as RSA, meaning "RECOVERING Sexaholics Anonymous"???


Some expected responses:
>> "Not all the alchaholics/sexaholics who go to these meetings recover" - true, but Isn't the purpose of the meetings to try to help them recover? Just as in a "Pilots Training course" not all the participants will end up as trained pilots.
>> "The most basic part of recovery is "The realization of the addict that he is a Sexaholic!" - True, That's all the more reason to call it "sexaholics recovery", meaning recovery for those who realize that they are Sexaholics.
>>everyone always calls it AA and SA, and you can't change the world!" - I'm not trying to! I'm just making a suggestion to those few who would like to begin "Thinking Positive"!
[BTW a great man once said "Some say 'You can't change the world', I say 'If you change yourself, you have made a change in the world, and thus, You have Changed the World!"].
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Re: Why not RSA instead of SA 16 Jun 2014 14:51 #233605

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I think it's a mixture of answers 2 and 3.

The real purpose of a 12 step meeting is just to be able to have a fellowship, a place where we can come out and be fine with the fact that Hashem created us as sexaholics. That makes recovery all the more easy, it's not necessarily part of recovery.

and by mentioning answer three I mean that you wrote "those who would like to begin "Thinking Postive", I don't think that realizing that one is a sexaholic is negative!! It's not putting oneself down, it's just like saying "I have bowel movements" we're human, it's fine!!
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Re: Why not RSA instead of SA 17 Jun 2014 08:39 #233679

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dear shivsi
i like to argue, when i feel i have a point
but in this post i think u r 100% right not just99%
i love you all

Re: Why not RSA instead of SA 17 Jun 2014 12:52 #233690

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9494 wrote:
Its a matter of practicality obviously. Its the same reason why its not called UPRSA - A name is just a reference point and is supposed to be catchy and have a ring to it .


On the one hand there is:
'אריב"ל לעולם אל יוציא אדם דבר מגונה מפיו שהרי עיקם הכתוב שמונה אותיות וכו

Yet on the other hand there is:

אמר רב הונא אמר רב משום רבי מאיר: לעולם ישנה אדם לתלמידו
דרך קצרה
see Gemara Pesachim Daf Gimel

Re: Why not RSA instead of SA 17 Jun 2014 22:18 #233720

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Sorry guys, but i have to say this.

WHO CARES??????????????????????

its enough talking, lets get to walking. Its called SA and everybody calls it SA. Fine lets move on. One of the key points of the program is acceptance of being a sex addict. So maybe thats why they chose it.

Whatever. Lets just move on and KOL!!!!!!!!!!
I am happy to speak on the phone. Please email me at dms1234ongye@gmail.com

My name is Daniel, I go to face to face meetings and I work the 12 steps with a sponsor. 
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