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one more question 17 Jun 2013 04:59 #209472

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if you had read my earlier topics, you would see that the person who put me on the right path was a girl, and i am wondering if it is okay to still chat using text messages to give each other chizuk

Re: one more question 17 Jun 2013 05:40 #209476

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It's not a good idea.

She sent you to a place where you can get chizzuk if you would reach out for it. If she needs the chizzuk, I'm sure she is capable of finding it.

Hatzlacha!

Re: one more question 17 Jun 2013 20:06 #209536

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jay9154 wrote:
if you had read my earlier topics, you would see that the person who put me on the right path was a girl, and i am wondering if it is okay to still chat using text messages to give each other chizuk


There was a fellow here with Same Sex Attraction (SSA) who posted a while back about a friend who had the same problem. They were "helping" each other out with chizzuk etc.. One day he asked his friend to come to the mikvah with him so they could become tahor (or something like that). It did not end well. You are playing with fire. I'm sorry for being so strong, but it really is fire.

One of the things many of us come to realize is that lust is stronger than us. We cannot afford to tempt it. We have lost enough times and learned we must avoid it - period.

Does she have a problem as well? You say "to give each other chizzuk". If she does, why not direct her to the women's section of GYE?

I know it seems very difficult, but I can't see how chatting with a girl will help you overcome a lust problem. If she directed you here, I assume she will understand.

Love,

Gibbor
Last Edit: 18 Jun 2013 18:20 by gibbor120.

Re: one more question 17 Jun 2013 21:23 #209557

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ok, so here it comes.... the confession...
at one point in my life, i made a girl crazy to talk to me (she, being a tzadeikes, wasnt interested at all). It lasted for a while. After that, i made up to stop. When i did, i thought to myself that i MUST get her mechila (forgiveness). So now, the YH made me crazy to keep making her crazy just to get her forgiveness!!! Totally backwards!!!
What im trying to say is that in my case i only wanted to get her mechila and it ruined my life (and hers...) for a few months longer (lsheim Shamayim). In your case, i would venture to say that its even worse, because you two are friends already. Talking anymore, even L'sheim Shamayim will only harm your recovery, as it did to me.
So, talk to us, its harmless
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Re: one more question 17 Jun 2013 22:02 #209564

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would it matter if we lived in separate countries

Re: one more question 17 Jun 2013 22:18 #209571

Check out the Gemara Sanhedrin 75b - "He should rather die and not talk to her even from the other side of the fence". Maybe it's not the same situation, but it gives an idea of how our sages dealt with such issues.

MT

Re: one more question 17 Jun 2013 22:27 #209573

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jay9154 wrote:
would it matter if we lived in separate countries

The farthest you can be, is from a girl who doesnt want to talk to you, and thats where i was. I dont think it makes a difference if she was from Venus (and you from Mars, of course )
Life is Like a Bicycle: If its easy, you're going downhill
Hashem, If I can't have what I want, then please teach me to want what I have -Unknown (and if u know who it was please inform me)
(1+2)x4=3
There is NOTHING wrong with feeling pain -My Sponsor
I will not act out today, I will tomorrow. Maybe when I get to tomorrow, it will again be 'today'

Re: one more question 17 Jun 2013 22:28 #209574

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jay9154 wrote:
would it matter if we lived in separate countries

Why do you want to keep up with her?

Re: one more question 18 Jun 2013 01:22 #209579

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Gibbor hit the nail on the head earlier. got nothing to add.
the answer in short is:
Don't do it
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