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Re: Where am I standing in this world?? 11 Oct 2012 16:24 #145888

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dov wrote on 11 Oct 2012 15:34:



I just asked a simple question, why are you losing your cool?


Rav Dessler noted that when the two guys made a bet who could get Hillel to lose his cool, they made sure to be makdim to him each time they cheppered him (in the middle of his bath): "Rabbi Hillel, I am sure this is a great bother to you and you may lose your cool, but I have a question." He responded, "Ask, my son."

Rav Dessler explains that the hakdomah was an accusation that he was surely inwardly losing his cool already. The guys tried to irritate him that way, hoping that would tilt the scale in their favor.

So far, you have said that to me twice - instead of responding to the thoughts I shared here.

This is not about you and it's not about me. I shared what I have on this matter and if you read it in your head as 'yelling' or something, that's not my business. Please do not be like those guys - for I am not like Hillel. (He already had one of those, so it's good - He doesn't need another Hillel anyhow! )

If this is about anyone at all, it is about arlu164. So....

Hey arlu (first name again!) - how are you, chabibi?


Why does it bother you if someone holds the view that powerless does not exist?

Re: Where am I standing in this world?? 11 Oct 2012 16:31 #145893

dov wrote on 11 Oct 2012 16:14:

Aye caramba! Thanks so much, I'll correct it now...I hardly ever edit my posts, you are ruining my record. Ha! :'(




You are indeed a "Great Guy". As I once heard of a Yerushalmi that says: Some Tanna or Amora once sent his disciple to another Tanna/Amora, with the following message: I am sending you a Gavra Rabba (= great guy). His gadlus is that he can say 'I don't know'.

MT

P.S. I dont know where that Yerushalmi is located ( ).

Re: Where am I standing in this world?? 11 Oct 2012 16:50 #145901

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nederman wrote on 11 Oct 2012 16:24:

Why does it bother you if someone holds the view that powerless does not exist?


Why does it bother you if someone holds the view that powerless does exist?

Re: Where am I standing in this world?? 12 Oct 2012 13:45 #145995

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Guys, I’m back and thanks for all your comments!!

However reading those lines isn't really answering my question. So to rephrase:
As you all know step number one is: to admit the problem. Am I addicted?? Is it “just” a Yetzer Hora??

I don’t watch **** to get away from stress, pressure… neither do I look at it often, but somehow the Yetzer Hora just always finds a loop hall to bring me down  and then I really tumble down, that is what’s bothering me!

So how do I get out of it?

Re: Where am I standing in this world?? 12 Oct 2012 14:03 #145999

A simple logical approach would be to study the GYE handbook which is geared to dealing with different levels of severity in these issues. Start with level one. If - after really working on it for a while - you do not see improvement, try level two. And so on, until you find your place. But you need to give it all you got. If you will look for loopholes and excuses, you'll surely find them. As Chazal teach us (Yoma 38b): If one seeks to defile himself, the doors will be opened for him. If one seeks to purify himself, he will be assisted.

We daven for your success, but as Chazal teach us (see Rashi Breishis 21:17), the afflicted person's tefilla is better and will be answered more promptly.

Hatzlacha rabbah - and remember, Rome was not built overnight. Recovery is a process. The main thing is that you should be heading in the right direction.

MT

Re: Where am I standing in this world?? 12 Oct 2012 17:56 #146041

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Amen to that!

Not being normal, it's hard for me to give you reliable advice about your struggle. But I have seen so much success among the people who follow the advice of Rav Tzvi-Elimelech of Lizhensk in his tzet'l koton, (#13). He writes there (and he is not even speaking to adicts!) to find a close, trusted friend, and to reveal openly and without holding anything back (those are his own words I am translating) all the stupid and goofy lust, resentment, jealousy, and self-centerdly-fearful thoughts that plague me today. And to consistently maintain that relationship so that I do not see this business as 'vanquishing the y"h' and 'graduating' - but as practicing real, clean living with the help of Hashem and His servants.

Remember: having hirhurim is not an issur. That's natural. It is harboring them that is an issur, and that causes trouble for us, spiritually and physically.

Does that help?

Hatzlocha!
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."

Re: Where am I standing in this world?? 30 Nov 2012 18:53 #148760

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arlu164 wrote on 12 Oct 2012 13:45:

Guys, I’m back and thanks for all your comments!!

However reading those lines isn't really answering my question. So to rephrase:
As you all know step number one is: to admit the problem. Am I addicted?? Is it “just” a Yetzer Hora??

I don’t watch **** to get away from stress, pressure… neither do I look at it often, but somehow the Yetzer Hora just always finds a loop hall to bring me down  and then I really tumble down, that is what’s bothering me!

So how do I get out of it?

When you say "really tumble down," do you mean you look at a lot of porn, or very bad porn, or do you mean that you masturbate yourself, or that you use a prostitute? Or do you mean something else?

It will help if you get clearer here, chaver.
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."
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