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Re: It's Time To Step Up...Here's My Story 25 Jun 2012 04:07 #140079

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B'sha'ah tovah umutzlachas for you, your wife, your marriage, and family. Mazel Tov on your success!

Push to find people. PM all the guys on the forum whose posts you relate well to and who you feel relate to your actual challenge. Rabbonim and yir'ei Hashem you can find plenty of out there and anywhere. But b"H here is one of the places you can find fellow frum porn users and masturbaters who are clean and living without it. PM them and ask them if you can call them for a short talk every day. Rotate the guys you talk with opn different days and lose your shame.

Use this gift. You and I will do nothing perfectly. Daven and try, just try.
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."

Re: It's Time To Step Up...Here's My Story 25 Jun 2012 08:24 #140087

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wow! That's great news! Wishing you and your wife all the best!
B'sha'ah tovah u'mutzlachas!
ישראל אע"פ שחטא ישראל הוא
If you're connected above, you won't fall down below - Reb Shlomo
ולבי חלל בקרבי
לולא האמנתי לראות בטוב ה' בארץ חיים

Re: It's Time To Step Up...Here's My Story 25 Jun 2012 19:16 #140135

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Thanks for sharing the news.
B'shaa Tova!
You have been given a great gift of motivation and momentum.
Lay out your plan for maintaining your sobriety and STICK WITH IT.
Consistency is key -- the day we ch"v step off the path is, well, the day we step off the path.
So stay on your good path. Take it one good decision at a time.

Re: It's Time To Step Up...Here's My Story 25 Jun 2012 22:14 #140191

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Reb Awroom...thank You for your post (the initial one)...I am having a hard time right now, and your post helped a lot. mostly this part:

Randomly, she would ask me if I looked at other girls because I didn't get enough satisfaction from her. I would cry deep down for giving her those insecurities after convincing her that it was just my "addiction" and had nothing to do with a Chisaron in her. I thank Hashem for giving me such an amazing wife.


You never know how you will inspire other people (i dont mean bedawka you,,,i mean nobody knows)
Shalom rav

Re: It's Time To Step Up...Here's My Story 26 Jun 2012 00:51 #140211

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Benzi -
I'm so glad you received chizuk from my post. That guilty feeling hits you hard. Hopefully its used as a strong deterent from going back down that road in the future. Making my wife a partner (to an extent) in my struggles and recovery has been extremely helpful.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks,
Avraham

Re: It's Time To Step Up...Here's My Story 26 Jun 2012 09:35 #140246

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You post was actualy THAT, what made me make the decission not to fall the 3rd time on that day. . .


Let me know what you think.


Pardon, what I think about what exactly?

Re: It's Time To Step Up...Here's My Story 26 Jun 2012 12:37 #140250

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I think he wants to know what you think about the idea of making your wife the one you dump all of your secret guilt onto so that you become too scraed of causing her even more pain and confusion by acting out even more....

It is effective - not cuz of the guilt of course, but because of the drips of honesty that infect the sick mind with a taste of precious, mature, reality, for a change...

It is cruel - for she is not a guy (I hope!) and has no penis, so she has virtually no education in regular guys and how they lust, and over and above all that, she is not an addict so cannot possibly understand why her loved one is dying to look at and get to know other nude women having sex and pretending to offer themselves to him and he masturbates himself to them - yet he still loves her and is devoted to her and wants Sholom Bayis with her??....torture...

Hey - everything has pluses and minuses, babe!

As Rav Shalom Schwadron zt"l told me once in a vaguely similar matter I asked him years ago: "Oy vavoi to the man who's wife is his rebbi!" V'hameivin yosif lekach v'yovin...

Hatzlocha!
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."

Re: It's Time To Step Up...Here's My Story 26 Jun 2012 12:47 #140251

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Just a slight thought of telling my wife (which I dont have yet) about this things brings the voice inside me to scream ... I dont know if its such a good idea ... the whole matzav is not such a good idea ...
haShem , let me stop before marriage !!!!!!!
today.

Re: It's Time To Step Up...Here's My Story 26 Jun 2012 14:30 #140279

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Stopping before the marriage would be a brocho. Give it all you got.
And if anyone out there still didn't tell their wife, please don't! They really don't get it, well-meaning though they try to be.
Baby steps.
If the road is pulling you down, it's a sign that you are going uphill, so just press harder on the gas!

Have a great day - unless, of course, you made other plans.

Re: It's Time To Step Up...Here's My Story 26 Jun 2012 16:35 #140296

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I'm not married, but I know someone who is divorced partially because he told his wife.
Rachmana Litzlan. Those wives out there who supported their husbands are very very very precious.

Re: It's Time To Step Up...Here's My Story 26 Jun 2012 16:52 #140301

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E-Tek wrote on 26 Jun 2012 16:35:

Those wives out there who supported their husbands are very very very precious.

Amen! Thanks for the reminder!

Re: It's Time To Step Up...Here's My Story 26 Jun 2012 16:56 #140303

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I know plenty such wives - but even they would be very poor choices as 'sponsors' for addicts.

The guys who try to get away with using their wives for this purpose, are simply telling the one person who they know is a 'captive audience'! Another yid out there might tell on them - but eishes cheikom? Who could she tell, without embarrassing herself even further?!

It's pathetic. It's misery loves company rather than freedom through honesty.

Hashem yatzileinu.
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."

Re: It's Time To Step Up...Here's My Story 26 Jun 2012 17:09 #140308

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NO no no. I mean it's a help that they know, not that you should burden them.
Oy...
They can't really understand! Why do that to them?

Re: It's Time To Step Up...Here's My Story 26 Jun 2012 17:24 #140311

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Of course it's a great help that they know!

My own wife knows every detail of my sexual acting out history and I share my recovery with her in any way she asks me to. If c"v I acted out, I'd tell her right after I told my sponsor...because she asked me to tell her this stuff!

When it all started, 20 years ago, I lied to her constantly, as most of us do. When I got caught by her (for the 5th time) about 17 years ago, I told her the roshei prakim...I finally got real help a year later when I hit bottom. I got sober and started recovering.

Two years ago I spoke at a shabbaton of about 200 frum sex addicts (mostly kollel and chassidishe yidden), telling my entire sexual acting out history, how I hit bottom, how I came to recovery, and life has been like since then, be"H. Many of the guys' wives were in attendance and heard the whole thing. At the time I was sober for 13 years.

When I got home that night, my wife told me she wanted to know as much as anyone esle there now knew about me, too. So I sat down and repeated the entire disgusting - and beautiful - thing, to her that night.

It was a catalyst for a much deeper marriage.

But that was 100% because G-d was in charge of the timing, not me.

My only point in the previous post is that the fantasy of using our wives as sponsors or gedarim against addictive behaviors is torture and does not usually work. It is not a real solution, besides being cruel.

But by all means - it's still true that telling her everything does help at least in the short term!
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."

Re: It's Time To Step Up...Here's My Story 26 Jun 2012 17:29 #140313

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dov wrote on 26 Jun 2012 17:24:

...G-d in charge of the timing...
But by all means - it's still true that telling her everything does help at least in the short term!
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