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Re: Strong Obsessive Sexual Thinking- Some Very Unacceptable. Opening Up For Once... 09 Nov 2011 15:27 #124953

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gibbor120 wrote on 09 Nov 2011 14:53:

"helpme" - powerful stuff.  I hope you get the help you need.  One question though, if the mikvah is a nisayon for you, why go there?


because:
1 its minhag chabad to go every day
2 i feel that it adds purity to my life
3 showering at home is even harder: i am naked by myself and there is a mirror. by going to mikve i never have to be alone in the shower (because i shower in the mikve)
4 when i dont go i have more bad thoughts (if such a thing were possible)
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Re: Strong Obsessive Sexual Thinking- Some Very Unacceptable. Opening Up For Once... 09 Nov 2011 15:33 #124955

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Gevura ShebYesod wrote on 09 Nov 2011 14:53:


I don't think it's allowed to think divrei torah in the mik, but maybe considering the alternative....Lately i just think about a red-white-and-blue flying monster truck  .


it says in kitzur shulchan aruch (no time right now to find where: i recently put a time limit i am on the internet for and am already 4 minutes over) that a person who if he doesnt think divrei torah in the TOILET he will think assur thoughts then it is mutar for him to think divrei (not speak) torah. i find that in the toilet an interesting pnei yehoshua is always helpful to go over in my mind whenever bad thoughts come. i dont think thats something to be proud of...:-\ :-\ :-\...but thats what works sometimes. in the mikve some mishnayos or tanya baal peh is sufficient because there is far less temptation.

i think that the reason is the isur to [i]think[i] a dvar torah is lav dafka min hatorah. and the chochomim were matir it in order to save a person from going over a much more serious issur.
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Re: Strong Obsessive Sexual Thinking- Some Very Unacceptable. Opening Up For Once... 09 Nov 2011 17:03 #124968

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See Orach Chaim Siman 85 Se'if 2 and Mishne Berura Se'if Koton 13.

Link to see it online:
http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14170&st=&pgnum=231

But I would venture that this is a last resort, and that it would be better to think of "neutral" things, see Mishne Berura Se'if Koton 5 & 6 for some suggestions.

Hang in there, don't let the falls get you down, it's all part of the slimy bas***d's bag of dirty tricks. And helping others is definitely one of the best ways to help oneself, I find that has been so true for me.

Keep on Trucking!!

Gevura!
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וּבְיָדְךָ כֹּחַ וּגְבוּרָה וּבְיָדְךָ לְגַדֵּל וּלְחַזֵּק לַכֹּל


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Re: Strong Obsessive Sexual Thinking- Some Very Unacceptable. Opening Up For Once... 20 Nov 2011 17:01 #126135

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Strange how Stealth123 has disappeared. Hope he is doing great.
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."
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