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Re: Should I Date? 09 Feb 2011 04:49 #96279

  • Dov
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The way it seems to me, there are two basic types:

1- the fellows who use lust (use porn, fantasy, masturbation, etc.) because it makes them feel good (even though it also makes them feel pretty bad sometimes, too), and

2- the fellows who discover (to their repeated amazement) that they will keep on using it regardless of whether it is pleasurable, or not. They are obsessed with it and with everything about it. Even though they are often disgusted with it (and with themselves) and swear off every time, it becomes obvious that they cannot seem to live without it.

GYE is here for both types and to give the opportunity to each type to get the help that he or she needs: type 1's to stop progressing out of control with chizzuk and support, and type 2's to come out of the shadows and shame and get the kind of help that we really need, for a change. 

Hatzlocha! You are not alone.
Most addicts who I know start off as type 1 and 'graduate' to type 2 at some point.
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."
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Re: Should I Date? 10 Feb 2011 02:28 #96382

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Dov,

I like that description.  For a long time I thought I was #1 till it seems as if one day I woke up and realized I was #2 in a big way.

The real kicker for me was when I realized that I was looking at porn even when it wasn't arousing me and even when I wasn't acting out with it.  I would finally get off the computer and ask myself "So I'm not aroused, I didn't use it to act out it, I jeopardized my family, job and reputation to do something that when I finished made me feel worse than when I started, so............ why the hell did I just do this?"

That is when I finally started to get roused from my denial and blindness.

Still took me getting caught by my wife. 

More thoughts that I could stop it and control it.

More pitiful and incomprehensible demoralization.

Then I finally came to understand that I would NEVER be able to stop on my own.

Only THEN was I finally able to come to SA and with much Hakoras Hatov the fellowship, the steps and God have been working miracles for me.

So everyone out there - hope, help and healing does exist.  Keep striving for it.
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