Dear Tzaddik with special weapons,

The question to ask them is not "what about v'lo sisa olov cheit", but:

In all honesty, have you actually done this yourself and remained sober as a result? In other words, if you are not an addict, you do not have a clue, so shut up. If you are a failing addict and giving me advice that is clearly not working for you, shut up. But if you are a chronic pervert or something like it, and the "just stop lying and go learn Torah" is working beautifully for you, then by all means, let's talk! I wanna know more about this!

Just my 2 cents. Advice is useless garbage. Sharing from actual success with the same kind of problem is all there is of any value, as far as I am concerned.

ditto

the dude seems to have removed himself from the gye memberlist
his email address has the word p*l*a*y*b*o*y* in it
maybe from mr hefner himself?

this is so funny, the sitra achra has email! 

God, do you have gchats with people? i had some questions....Eliyahu doesnt come to brissim no more, he does skype

must get to work
i think wer'e gonna need some.....special weapons and tactics

Every day a new name, Tzaddik90 Born Again Special Weapons and Tactics Sea Air and Land Special Air Service Rambo Mobile Army Surgical Hospital Sayeret Matkal Shimshon Hagibor Yehuda Hamacabee
Just keep fighting for Hashem's honor and glory.
BB

12-step meetings should be accepted more in the frum community. After all, isn't Hashem basically Anonymous? Seen His picture lately? 

Hashem is not anonymous-everyone knows all 5 million of his names-now, his place  ayei mikom kvodo that is another matter

i have much to share, insightul things
words can barely describe the meeting

but i just finished the book and now the editting is ready, and i must do it for my own happiness and sanity

thank you for flying united airlines

please just keep growing

gevaldik! You finished!

good stuff - keep up the good work

dov.ii

Dear friends,
i have been away from the forum for a long time

now, i'm back.
my sponsor said for homework i must read big book up to page 164,
and reach out to three people who are addicts this week

i have had too much to say. I still have been holding it off to finish this book. It is a book that contains much of the wosdom i have learned from all of you on the forum, plus a few Gra's and stuff on the side.
So anyhow, to reach out i am back on the forum BECAUSE it is part of my recovery.

i saw today what Dov wrote in the email.
parcha nishmasam.
it was the singlehandedly most unbelievable thing i'd ever seen since coming here. I would like to share why.

A letter I wrote to a close friend, changed for his security:

......."A thought occured to me after i was online, i must share.......
I agree and disagree, believing that there are two panim two this....
One, to the non-**, regular guy, i agree.
Two, to the people who are part of the most priveledged segment of the human race, i disagree.
To explain,
(ONE)if Dov on SA would write "Dov, in SA and sober for 14 years, touched little....., slept with  and ******", i agree. This is too much ohr for the keilim of the mikablim. People would be turned off to listen to his Dovish daily doses.
However, this is only while u still relate to people who admit these things as NOT being men of the finest character.

This is unfortunately how many (most?...) people view things.
This is certainly at least related to the fact that they currently minimize their own issues and sweep them under the rug, just telling people they do p&m, p*** just of women standing next to monster trucks ...... Mexican flags. No men, animals, all different... in dresses. This is what..... did, as well as a friend that ********* and another that gets a hit from gazing ******......., and others that i spoke to recently.

(TWO)However, from the view of a person who has recently heard priests, chareidim, chasidim, admit that they crossdressed and went out with zonahs, and with my admission that i did ***** to*****, as well as brush up ******** ***** ,and ***********, and *******, and more, it was a sense of pride.

You must understand,

it all boils down to where we are coming from.
For the gye who is pretending he never had issues in the mikva or pool, it is THREATENING.

For the person sitting in an SA meeting, which is the most advanced and sharpest tool known to man for these issues, who has FULLY taken the 1st of 12 steps, it is a thing of the past to dress in ****** clothing, so it is a source of pride. SINCE relative to then with those sick experiences, i am now sober or at least working the program. The bigger the yeridah, the greater the ohr from the aliyah.

"My name is Avi, and i'm a sexaholic. I acted out with  *******, and put *************** ____ and am not embarrassed to share, because all you in the room here are on the same level as me, past the 1st step. And we all unanimously agree that it WAS what happened, but now that we are in SA it will never happen again.
This is of the deepest points i can possibly share to another human being. Please consider, take strength, and grow.
avi"

The words i omitted were:crossdressing, incest, pedophilia, adultery, fetishism, exhibitionism, and more

i understand if it is editted out here too

however, one time i write them here, to get across one point. Are we here to minimize the real problems we have or had done at least once in your life, pretending all we do is p&m?

why?
my point: if you have taken all steps to grow in this struggle, then these things are a source of pride, because FROM that dirty place in your life, you are now willing to face the music and change
however, if you are afraid to face this music then it is threatening to ever discuss these things, out of fear that someone will "find out" what YOU really are and really did, then you will never fully grow
if 1300 ppl "just" do p&m then it is not painful to admit it. So its halfway, but what about the  other half?

i am a dispicable person. i get no credit for anything. But for some zany reason, God has bestowed on me one of the 13 middos, in gemara brachos, to give chessed to those unworthy for reasons unknown to us. Vichanosi ess asher achon, vireechamtey ess asher aracheim. so i grew this week because God gave me a kick in the pants with these ideas. They were painful before the transition. Now they are very sweet.

a dispicable, worthless, addict, dependent on coffee and gin to survive all my serious issues,
tz90

The last thing i want is to portray a holier than thou attitude. I am certainly not holier than anyone.

All i wanted to do is share an insight that helped me, to help s/one else that will appreciate it.

if u could not understand my last post because you can't read ancient neandrotholic dialect inscribed on the skulls of frozen wooly mamoths in somalia, then i apologize

sometimes i must write in great haste, and take moderators into consideration, and i am a neandrathal

just rock on

wooly club head spear whuffa eat my flesh

moof thththeeeb!!! muffamuf

sounds like a misbalance between the coffee and the gin

hi!

good to see you back in full glory
if i could i would give you a 21-gun salute
but i heard the gunpowder is gebrokts..

zemmy, watch out
cuz i shoot back

we need a course in military etiquette
a 21-gun salute is a sign of honor
not an attack

maybe i will settle for a 21-kugel salute