Hello everyone. I'm sure there are totally new people here whom Ive never had the please of "meeting" on here. My name isnt Yiddle but thats what I go by on here (not sure why...).

Just reaching out to the GYE velt. If any old timers want to pop by and say hi it would put a smile on my face. And anyone I havent met that wants to as well would put a double smile.

All the best!

-Yiddle

Yiddle2 wrote on 04 Jul 2011 19:57:


Hi

Leme see your smile

Zo.....did you ever find that elusive accountability partner?

(And by the vay, "Hi there!")

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YIDDLE THIS IS A NICE ONE!

Yiddle2 wrote on 04 Jul 2011 19:57:


Yiddle!!!!!


So nice to 'see' you!!!


I think of you quite often!


Here is a smile (I borrowed it from ZemirosShabbos's Smile Gemach):
ZemirosShabbos wrote on 02 Dec 2010 15:49:





Yiddle2 wrote on 04 Jul 2011 19:57:


Actually we have not met - yet. So here are TWO smiles:

Hey if anyone wants to chat I have gchat I find it very helpfull and you might to. Its coomunicating on a more personal level which always helps. I am not affiliated with any particular movement in recovery so we can certainly help each other. My gmail is Yiddle2.

Also I wanted nto throw out an idea of maybe a few times a week doing a mussar session. Maybe we can plow through Mesillas Yesharim over the phone in a conference. If youre interested in this you can reply here.

-Yiddle

Hey does anyone know what the situation is with the filter gabai? I need someone to hold my password... If someone would be willing to hold the password for who is easily accessible either through text message or email or gchat that would be great because there are times for business where I need to bypass the filter. I am afraid that if I give the password tot he gabbai and hes not available when I need the password that it wont work out. Can someone help me with this?

Thanks,

Yiddle

I had an idea that I think would benefit alot of people here. I was thinking of starting a new accountability group like the ones we have on GYE but with a couple of different twists.

1) Everyone must check in every other day. Failure to do so without good reason would lead to expulsion from the group. I know this seems harsh but if you look at all these groups, they end up dying iff because people dont check in. I would only want people in this group who are as committed as I am if not more.

2) It would be independent of GYE. This is done to gain more privacy and allow people to be more open and also shows how committed you have to be to the group in order to stay in. It will be private so nobody can read it without granted access by the moderator.

Let me know what people think about this. If youre interested you can PM me, email me, or reply on here.

I think this can be a great tool for people who are really committed. This will not be a 12 step group or anything like it.

-Yiddle

Hey, instead of ignoring me cuz you think you know how predictable I am, I want to tell you that I really think this idea of yours is awesome.

As you can guess, I feel it is reinventing the wheel. I am part of a group of men who want to stay clean and meet on the phone to talk and do some work for that prize. We talk about being honest, we discover new ways we were always lying to ourselves, and we learn what real commitment means. It is the third cycle of this group - it always starts with about 10 guys and ends up as about 5. Those who stay are definitely commited and undergo change that usually stays with them.

Then the unthinkable 'happens' to most of them: they decide to meet some other guys in the group in person. And as intentions and decisions are meaningless and empty unless put into real action, they do meet them. 

As each of those guys will tell you (and you know at least five of them by username), meeting other guys in the group who they are working together with, is a life-changer. And the changes last. The single most predictable factor in growing up (and out of this schmutz) is the demand for saving face. We all like to call it 'privacy'.

That's why I love your idea. It is a step towards having a more realistic relationship with the other guys. And the best part of all is that it is separate from GYE. It's your own, so it's more personal. Geshmak.

I am commited to my sobriety and recovery and would agree to join with you and be on your call. I have only one condition and make one promise:

The only condition is that no usernames are allowed - we'd all use our real first names. Enough fakery and hiding behind play-names. If that condition is OK

The promise is that I will not spew any program stuff in the context of that group. I know I am just another sex addict who desperately need to hang onto the sobriety he has been granted by Hashem today. The group will obviously be a mix os addicts and no-addicts - but that has nothing to do with membership. We all want to stop sex with ourselves and the porn and fantasy junk that goes with it, right?

Am I in?

dov wrote on 21 Jul 2011 16:24:


As you know, I do take issue with this condition...... 

I'm in another free fall and I MUST do something to change this. I am going to bli neder not be in the computer for more than 15 minutes at a time. I'm on the computer alot of the day because of work, but I am going to be more cognizant of how much time I spend on it. I am also going to set out 4 minutes every day, 2 in the morning and 2 at night to just talk to G-d one on one with nobody around. Doesnt seem like a lot but it is and I think it will have a profound effect on me.

Ok these two things are enough for now. So to recap: no more than 15 minutes on computer without a break and 4 minutes a day talking to God alone.

I will be a pain in the butt again, and more explicit and pushy than ever before. Nu.

What does all this mean: Yiddle2 wrote on 10 Aug 2011 21:32:


Why do it alone? It sounds nice, sure, 'talk to Hashem alone'...but does he fail as you do? Does He talk back to you?

I still think that avoidance of using other addicts has always been your one hold-out. No meetings - anything but anything...but no meetings. It's just permanently and completely out of the question. Is then your recovery out of the question?

Perhaps you have indeed tried hard. And yet now
...it seems to this bozo (me) that you are re-frying the same old beans, friend.

Will you now be more cognizant, somehow? Have you been the sudden yoreish of some new trove of wisdom and insight?

AA discovered that self-knowledge was not the answer. What have you discovered and how is it really any different?

There is 'going it alone', and there is 'going it alone'. I do not believe that "getting closer to Hashem" is the answer - until you have payed the price and learned how to first get close to other sick people - people like you. 

Being 'spiritual' is easy, when it's just you and G-d. Then when people get involved we really start to learn that our 'relationship' with Hashem wasn't nearly as real as we though t it was. That is a gift of meetings, and davka in person.

Thanks to Hashem I can go to them, and do, regularly.

I would keep my mouth shut, and have for a long time. But your struggle speaks to me, and here you go, choosing yet more isolation and safety in your familiar comfort zone.

Reb Yiddle,

I know you're on a down now but I was just reading your post from a few weeks ago asking to say hello to old and new members.
So here I am (read rap-style) -

My name is Levi Yitzchak AKA Kidushashem
My symptoms are so hard I never want to take no blame
Live in shame, need a name, Yetzer Hara have to tame
But it's a game, I can win, make the strategy just plain.

So now there is a plan all I do is move ahead
I know I cannot stop or my symptom will be: dead
Pump the lead, use your head and the Torah must be read
Out of bed, no fake med(s), down the right path you'll be led.

I've been to hell on this earth - up to me I won't return
Let me say it ain't no mirth if for Holiness you yearn
So now I say, a change of way, I will find what makes me sway
Timtum Halev goes away and I will LIVE another day!

Reb Yiddle,
I would love to talk Gchat.

Live strong my friend!



                                               

                     
                     

Levi Yitzchak, you are indeed the man. Getting real, opening up - that's what it is all about and the only thing that it is all about - in the beginning, middle, and end.

Love both of you guys like crazy!

G-chat the yiddle2 and the kiddushashem and who knows what great stuff will grow outa that?
Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!