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Re: Please gimme some Chizuk and or Mussar. 12 Jan 2010 00:55 #44617

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Yiddle2 wrote on 11 Jan 2010 01:55:

Hi everyone,

I thought I would tell you guys about the most interesting and emotional day for me in my lifetime. It all started when I had a fall last night. I was in the middle of falling when my parents walked in and b'h didnt see me, but they started to talk to me about something. And I dont know if this has ever happened to someone, but when someone is falling and someone else walks in, they want that person out of that room immediately. So I quickly flipped on on my parents and they got so angry that I did not have Drech Eretz for them a dn we all went to sleep angry. The next morning, something else happened and I got REALLY angry with my father. I was ready to run away from home right there. My father wasnt home and my mother pleaded with me and was crying for me to stay and work it out. With tears coming down my cheek, I left the house with the intention of not coming back for the week. about a block later I turned around and decided to come back. My mother and I waited for my father to come home and I sat down with them for 2 hours and talked out our differences. You see, I never had a good relationship with my father and he always tells me that he resents that. I was crying ALOT which is something that I have never done.

Hopefully this will be the beginning of a new thing and I can learn to build relationships instead of break them. I look back at the moment where it all went down and I exploded on my parents for no reason and think to myself "Isn't it such a Bracha that I had been falling at that point!" I know that sounds crazy, but its the truth. Had i not been falling when my parents came into my room, this would never have happened and I would not have had the opportunity to truly open up to my father.

All the best to all,

-Yiddle
Dear sweet Yiddle - I just remembered why I say "sweet" by  the "Yiddle": This post above.
See, the way you describe yourself is exactly how I'd describe my sone's relationship with me. I was drunk with lust for most of his childhood (he's over 20 now), and we can't seem to communicate well much of the time. OK, that may be putting it mildly.
It makes me sick. I went to shrink by myself just for help to improve the relationship a few yesrs ago, but while it improved, we still have big walls between us, r"l.
This wall does not exist with the kids we have had while I was sober and in recovery. Maybe it'll improve, but I ache for Hashem to help us find more common ground and lead us to love eachother.
This was not what your post was about, of course, but I hope it'll help you too, for me to share what was on my heart.
Hatzlocha with everything, chaver.
You seeem to be on a good path, as your friends here tell you.
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."
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Re: Please gimme some Chizuk and or Mussar. 12 Jan 2010 04:04 #44646

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Thank you all,

I am trying to use this extremely emotional situation to better my relationship with people. I feel that I can open up more and dont need to hide the things I once thought that i needed to hide.

Much Love,

-Yiddle
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Re: Please gimme some Chizuk and or Mussar. 12 Jan 2010 05:37 #44687

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Yiddle, you are going to make a wonderful father one day. You're gonna learn from the early mistakes of me, Dov, and the rest of us in recovery, and avoid the pitfalls of isolation away from your kids. You're gonna take the best of the healing between you and your dad and avoid the over-controlling that leads to father-son difficulties. You are going to be GREAT, you know why?

Cuz you're ALREADY GREAT!!

Plus dear and sweet.

But don't let the guys in the locker room hear me say that....
No one is so small that he can not give help, and no one is so big that he doesn't need it.

Kol HaOlam Kulo, Gesher Tzar Meod, V'HaIkkar: Lo L'Pacheid Klal.
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Re: Please gimme some Chizuk and or Mussar. 13 Jan 2010 17:14 #45331

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Steve wrote on 12 Jan 2010 05:37:

Yiddle, you are going to make a wonderful father one day. You're gonna learn from the early mistakes of me, Dov, and the rest of us in recovery, and avoid the pitfalls of isolation away from your kids.


...what's more, as we are still making mistakes, you'll have us as a wellspring of continuous learning!!! Ha!!  ;D 8)

Love you, man....
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."
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Re: Please gimme some Chizuk and or Mussar. 13 Jan 2010 19:47 #45415

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hee heee.

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No one is so small that he can not give help, and no one is so big that he doesn't need it.

Kol HaOlam Kulo, Gesher Tzar Meod, V'HaIkkar: Lo L'Pacheid Klal.
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Re: Please gimme some Chizuk and or Mussar. 14 Jan 2010 08:16 #45599

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dov wrote on 13 Jan 2010 17:14:

Steve wrote on 12 Jan 2010 05:37:

Yiddle, you are going to make a wonderful father one day. You're gonna learn from the early mistakes of me, Dov, and the rest of us in recovery, and avoid the pitfalls of isolation away from your kids.


...what's more, as we are still making mistakes, you'll have us as a wellspring of continuous learning!!! Ha!!  ;D 8)

Love you, man....
Can you imagine how utterly pointless life would be if we didn't make any mistakes?
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Re: Please gimme some Chizuk and or Mussar. 14 Jan 2010 14:41 #45656

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Kollel Guy wrote on 14 Jan 2010 08:16:

dov wrote on 13 Jan 2010 17:14:

Steve wrote on 12 Jan 2010 05:37:

Yiddle, you are going to make a wonderful father one day. You're gonna learn from the early mistakes of me, Dov, and the rest of us in recovery, and avoid the pitfalls of isolation away from your kids.


...what's more, as we are still making mistakes, you'll have us as a wellspring of continuous learning!!! Ha!!  ;D 8)

Love you, man....
Can you imagine how utterly pointless life would be if we didn't make any mistakes?


Nobody. I mean NOBODY. Doesn not make a mistake in life. Even Moshe Rabbeinu made mistakes in life and he was on the 49th level of Kedusha (No not the GYE member)! If I dont make mistakes even from now ad meah veesrim shana, then I am not looking at myself in a constructive manner and I will never improve.

-Yiddle
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Re: Please gimme some Chizuk and or Mussar. 14 Jan 2010 17:56 #45744

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If a guy like me stopped making any mistakes I'd soon decide I didn't need G-d at all, any more. (Ask the first man, he'll sadly tell you all about his run-in with "vehiyeesem k'aylokim!")
I guess I am forever 'doomed' to being an oved Hashem....nu, He's a Good Master, after all.


This little shpeel is getting more mileage than a Prius!
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."
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Re: Please gimme some Chizuk and or Mussar. 14 Jan 2010 18:03 #45748

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Maybe that's specifically the reason we make mistakes, to demonstrate to us that we simply CANNOT do it on our own.
It's definitely a big potch to the gaavah, to know that "no matter how hard you try, and how much you think, and how slick you think you are, you will mess up 100%, without even the slightest doubt".
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Re: Please gimme some Chizuk and or Mussar. 14 Jan 2010 18:09 #45750

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Beautifull idea KG!

A little side point: I was granted permission to see the married mens forum. At first I was able to see the posts on that thread. Now I dont see them, just an empty section for married men. Is there a reason for this?

-Yiddle
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Re: Please gimme some Chizuk and or Mussar. 15 Jan 2010 01:43 #45869

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Man, this is kind of depressing. Nobody has posted anything in over an hour!

-Yiddle
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Re: Please gimme some Chizuk and or Mussar. 15 Jan 2010 15:18 #46007

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Everyone: HAVE A GREAT SHABBOS!!!
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Re: Please gimme some Chizuk and or Mussar. 15 Jan 2010 15:58 #46019

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Yiddle2 wrote on 14 Jan 2010 14:41:

If I dont make mistakes even from now ad meah veesrim shana, then I am not looking at myself in a constructive manner and I will never improve.


Well said - whenever we improve, we need to look at ourselves again, and with our new, enhanced vision, figure out what can be changed and improved now.

Hope your shabbos is great, too!
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Re: Please gimme some Chizuk and or Mussar. 16 Jan 2010 23:52 #46110

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Gut Voch everyone,

Lets all have a great week dedicated and devoted to Hashem and only Hashem. I have often thought of this idea that I have and wonder what it would be like to put it into action. My idea is to take one day, that's one day out of my whole life, and completely dedicate it to helping other people aside from myself. I would do whatever I need for my Avodas Hashem which would include Tefillah, eating, and going to the bathroom. But other than that I want to dedicate the left over hours of the day to helping other people. This might sound difficult and probably is. But I can just imagine the feeling at the end of that day. I want to ask myuself every second of the day: "How can I be of service to anyone but myself?" One mght say, "Well you are not around people all day!" Well I can make that happen. Let me know what you guys think of this idea.

Shavua Tov

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Re: Please gimme some Chizuk and or Mussar. 17 Jan 2010 19:42 #46335

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Wow, Yiddle2!
There used to be a line written on a card in my wallet that went something like this: "If there were any other way to stay sober than being focused on being useful to others, I'd take it. But there isn't." Kind of funny, I think...

Have you read the 3rd step prayer of AA lately? Check it out and you'll see what I am referring to...

We had quite a time with this idea on GYE a few months ago, and there was some discussion abiut what it has to do with recovery from our problem. If you are interested in that, you may find that material with a search of keywords like selfish, self-centered, or "being useful". Whatever you do, thanks for brining this up!
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."
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