Yiddle2 wrote on 30 Nov 2009 14:47:
Dear INH - This is not addressed necessarily to you. I assume you are taking actions to put the steps into practice in some way in your daily life. But I need to express this anyway, because you wrote that "something's gotta change". For some folks (like me), I believe it's this:
Are these steps ideas that you fully accept in your heart?
Or...
Are they actions that you actually take in order to make them real?
Take Lust, for example. We all eventually needed some kind of action/behavior to fulfill our lust...fantasy was never really enough for us in the end, right? ....Given that simple fact, why did we all - to a man - expect to get all better just by wanting to (really badly)? "Not acting out" isn't an action, at all, so why should it do anything positive to change us?
If really, really accepting his mitzvos in our hearts was "enough" to Hashem, then Avraham would not have actually had to schlep Yitchok up that mountain and reach for the knife, right? Hashem knew he'd do it anyway. And our religion would look a lot more like christianity, where resting on the sabbath is a profound idea, love and avodah of their g-d-concept is a sincere feeling, and where keeping kosher, sukkah and circumcision are not actually necessary. Lo zu haderech.
Sure, "recovery is an inside job", as they say. But this is a program of action, where simple spiritual principles are made accessible even to absolute idiots - because they are put into simple action. And anyone can do actions! That's why it can work for anyone, even for thick-headed lust-drunks like me, b"H.
By the same token, length of sobriety is not really "proof" of anything. I'd say that the closest thing to "proof" that a person has really accepted these ideas fully in their hearts, is their grateful sobriety today. And the only way to get there is by working the steps. ("...here are the steps we took:", AA ch 5.)
So. I'm still an annoying pain in the buttock. What's new?
I read this post from INH and I'm saying to myself, wow, this sounds an awful lot like Dovish to me, and
I know Dovish. And I was amazed at the depth of it and I was just about to post my amazment to INH on his profound post when I saw that it was addressed
TO INH... And then I noticed at the bottom "Last modified by Dov"... So it seems that somehow Dov modified a post of INH instead of replying, by mistake. But that's fine, after all, it needs to be an "inside job".