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Re: Chizzuk Needed 05 Jan 2025 05:26 #428458

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Re: Chizzuk Needed 06 Jan 2025 05:20 #428532

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Re: Chizzuk Needed 07 Jan 2025 05:01 #428591

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Re: Chizzuk Needed 08 Jan 2025 11:10 #428687

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Re: Chizzuk Needed 08 Jan 2025 20:01 #428741

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Thanks for the thank-yous guys, it makes me feel good. It's hard for me to admit that, as it exposes the vulnerability of being תלוי on others, which is scary for me, having felt betrayed by others at various painful times. But the truth is I do need others, I do need you, and your support really helps.

What's that? Oh sorry guys, they're saying this type of talk on the soapbox is frowned upon

Re: Chizzuk Needed 08 Jan 2025 20:09 #428742

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Someone close to me who is in NA told me that something he sees in people in NA who have been clean for a long time is the ability to have relationships with family member which had previously been toxic; to have real relationships where they open themselves up to being able to receive what good they can from the 'dangerous' other party - empathy, support, love, while at the same time not letting them hurt them. I found that to be a big chiddush, I have always looked at it as either I let you in, in which case I have to take your עוקץ with the דבש, or I don't let you in, but I through at the baby with the bath-עוקץ.

But this shows that there is another way to relate to people. I think part of it is that you're seeing the good parts of the relationship as an expression of who they really are, as if he is the person I am actually having a relationship with, while looking at the bad as being an expression of something which is not essentially them, eg they are acting out a sickness inside of them which is not in line with their true ratzon.

This relates to the topic we discussed previously of how do I look at the bad within me, is it me, or is it something within me that I can to some degree dissociate with. It seems that somehow the people who master recovery in the context of the 12 steps learn a healthy way of self awareness, which allows them to also relate in a much more beneficial way to other people. Or maybe the other way around. Not really sure, but I think it's amazing that such a thing exists and I hope to learn to do that. Then it wouldn't have to be so scary for me to admit things like "it makes me feel good when others support me" because I wouldn't feel that I was endangering myself by doing so.

Re: Chizzuk Needed 09 Jan 2025 00:24 #428749

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ויש כאן עומק גדול, כראוי לעמקן גדול, אפריון נמטייה לך ידידי

You’re so right.

I feel that the ability to differentiate between the different parts of ourselves and to be able to accomplish positive Birur of Middos and Retzonos is a huge part of being able to recover. Not just in 12 Step work but in all the work we are doing here.

We all struggled with feeling we wanted to throw out the baby along with the bath water, in ourselves. We wondered if there’s part that was worth salvaging, and if it was maybe easier to just throw in the towel.

Learning that we are actually worthy of saving and are essentially good - to me that is what opens up the prison door…

Please feel free to reach out anytime at chaim.oigen@gmail.com

Perhaps you'd enjoy seeing Chaim's Oigen
Last Edit: 09 Jan 2025 00:32 by chaimoigen.

Re: Chizzuk Needed 09 Jan 2025 05:51 #428767

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Well said as usual

Re: Chizzuk Needed 09 Jan 2025 05:51 #428768

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Re: Chizzuk Needed 10 Jan 2025 09:28 #428847

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Re: Chizzuk Needed 11 Jan 2025 16:42 #428881

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Re: Chizzuk Needed 12 Jan 2025 05:56 #428923

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Re: Chizzuk Needed 12 Jan 2025 15:19 #428934

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Having an urge right now. I think it was actually brought on by too much caffeine. Had one coffee too many. Now my heart is beating and I think I might have confused myself into thinking that I'm aroused. Ech too much caffeine is not a good feeling.

I'm reminding myself that:
1) Having an urge doesn't mean I have to act out. If I don't act out, I will be fine.
2) If I were to act out, I would in fact feel worse and not better
3) The urge will pass, and so will this gross hyped up caffeine feeling
4) By not acting out I'm bringing the world closer to it's תיקון
5) By not acting out I'm becoming closer to Hashem
6) By not acting out I'm becoming more in control of myself
7) I feel so much better clean than dirty
8) I want Hashem, I want Torah, I want to breathe emuna and acting out is a mechitza shel barzel

Re: Chizzuk Needed 12 Jan 2025 15:54 #428937

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After a 15 minute intense workout feeling better, too out of breathe for these shtuyot

Re: Chizzuk Needed 12 Jan 2025 15:59 #428938

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Thanks a lot for this topic. Your story really reminds me of mine, and seeing your daily comments and the way you’re openly fighting this battle makes me cry in front of my computer. Every time you talk about a dangerous situation—whether it’s taking too much coffee or being scared to use your wife’s phone to remove the filter from your computer—it brings back memories of similar things I’ve been through. Sometimes I fell, and sometimes I managed to hold on. Seeing how you’ve stayed strong through this post and on this site gives me so much hope and strength. I hope  little by little, you’ll make it and free yourself from this struggle
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