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Addiction? 15 Dec 2020 04:41 #358737

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I would like to clarify something. I am sure this is something that has been chewed over countless times here on GYE,but please indulge me and allow me to have some chewing time too.
Can someone please clarify what is the definition of an addiction? When is a behavior considered to be an addiction? Regarding our shared struggles here on GYE, Obviously every frum man has this struggle to a certain extent. Every person has a Yetzer Hara for Arayos etc and todays world is full of temptations. So, if someone falls in his nisyonos is he called addicted? Is it a certain amount of times that he falls to considered addicted? Furthermore,does it really make a difference if the term addicted is applicable or not? It is a struggle and it has to be worked on in whichever way works as long as it conforms halachicly and hashkaficly for that person. Or no, maybe there is a very different way to treat an addict and someone else and perhaps it would even be harmful to do otherwise? 
Any thoughts are welcome.
Thanks!

Re: Addiction? 15 Dec 2020 23:01 #358792

May I ask what difference does it make if you are an addict or not?

Are you happy with this behavior? Yes or No
Do you want to stop? Yes or No
Is what you are doing to stop working?

In SMART Recovery we don't call ourselves addicts. We have a bad habit that is causing us a lot of pain and there are tools and techniques that can allow us to live a better, sober more serene lifestyle.

All the best,
Yaakov
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Re: Addiction? 15 Dec 2020 23:50 #358794

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Dov talks about addiction in these posts, among others:
Addiction MUST be self diagnosed
guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-On-the-Way-to-90-Days/124072-Dov-Quotes?limit=15&start=120#217416
Great Definition of Addiction and 'unmanageability'(with some added emphasis)
guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-On-the-Way-to-90-Days/124072-Dov-Quotes?limit=15&start=120#215911
Who is an Addict?  Do I Need the 12 Steps?
guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-On-the-Way-to-90-Days/124072-Dov-Quotes?limit=15&start=75#129882
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